'Der Spiegel' Reports on Mozilla Firefox 0.8

Tuesday February 10th, 2004

Daniel Küstner writes: "Spiegel Online, one of the biggest German news sites and the online spin-off of the biggest German news magazine, Der Spiegel, is reporting about the name change. The article is about the new version 0.8, the change from Phoenix via Firebird to Firefox, the naming conflicts and mentions some firework companies named Firefox and the red Panda. They also state, that 'besides the Apple browser Safari, Firefox is said to be the leanest and fastest complete program for navigating the web.' They have a link to" AltaVista's automated Babelfish translation is just about understandable.

Update: A reader who wishes to remain anonymous sent us links to two more German language articles about Firefox 0.8, this time from Austrian sites. The newspaper der Standard talks about the name change and new features and a page from the Austrian Broadcasting Corporation provides background on the issues surrounding the name change (Babelfish translation of the Austrian Broadcasting Corporation article).

#1 This browser is built with XUL!

by buff

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 3:55 AM

"With the latest 0.8 release of Firefox, however, things appear to be changing. This browser version is not built with XUL, but with GTK2"

Hmm. Ah, I don't believe this is quite true. If you take apart the files that come with Firefox you will find the UI is still XUL based. I believe the difference is that the XUL is now communicating with the GTK2 toolkit and calling up native widgets. So while the widgets might be native XUL interpretation still exists. How come supposedly tech writers can't understand this?

#2 This browser is built with XUL!

by diag

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 3:59 AM

I think, you mixed the articles. Your citation is from the mozillazine article below, which is referring to an article written by a user, not a tech writer.

#3 Babelfish

by tve

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 4:57 AM

"AltaVista's automated Babelfish translation is just about understandable."

...and always a good laugh. ;)

Quite lame article, 90% of it was about the name change and some other companies/movies/books/blah that are also called Firefox, not much about the browser itself...

#5 Re: Babelfish

by mlefevre

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 5:35 AM

That's just a reflection of what's happened elsewhere. The MozillaZine article is at least 50% about the name change. And if you look at the comments on the front page story and in the forum, they're nearly all about the name change. Same with slashdot.

A point release with a download manager and a bookmark and XPInstall dialog improvements isn't "big news" that people want to talk about. Trademark disputes, the choice of name and people having arguments are. I'm not saying that's good, but...

#8 Re: Re: Babelfish

by jsebrech

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 6:46 AM

What firefox needs most is for people to hear it exists. This trademark dispute and renaming ordeal could very well be a good thing marketingwise over time.

#11 Re: Babelfish

by diag

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 7:41 AM

What in turn means, that there should be a name change twice a year ;) (which is the case at the moment anyway).

#10 Re: Re: Babelfish

by MvD

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 7:08 AM

Well, think about it. Although those changes are nice, as such there isn't much difference. So it would be pretty obvious that the name change would be the most talked about thing.

#4 mediocre article, good publicity

by imforumman

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 5:10 AM

The article may be mediocre at best, but since Der Spiegel is not a technology centered publication, this is great publicity!

#6 Big success

by laszlo

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 6:20 AM

It's already a bigger than big success that Firefox made it into one of the most read German magazines. It's not important that more than half of the article is about the name change. That it got mentioned at all is the success. Right below the headline it says "Mozillas 'Firebird' Browser is spiffy, small and fast" - what else do you want?

#7 Big success

by diag

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 6:27 AM

To make it clear: This is not the printed copy of "Der Spiegel", but the "Netzwelt"-section of Spiegel Online.

#9 Re: Big success

by laszlo

Tuesday February 10th, 2004 6:57 AM

Which doesn't mean that there's no possibilty that it will be mentioned in the next printed issue. ;)