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CoolShirts.org Offers Mozilla T-Shirts to EU Citizens

Sunday February 8th, 2004

Mark writes: "It has always been difficult and expensive for European Mozilla fans to purchase a cool Mozilla shirt. Almost all online shops that sell Mozilla shirts are on the American continent, so the shipping costs for European customers are high. Because I thought this was an odd situation I started CoolShirts.org, a small online t-shirt shop with Mozilla shirts among others. The shirts are cheap (starting at €13.50), but high quality. Shipping costs to any country in the European Union are only €2.50 per shirt. I donate €0.75 to the Mozilla Foundation for each shirt I sell."


#1 any chance of shipping that PHP shirt into the U.S

by smkatz

Sunday February 8th, 2004 7:02 PM

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or any other vendor shipping that design. it's so cool.

--Sam

#3 Re: what?!??!! 0.75?

by hark <mozillazine@komkommerkom.com>

Sunday February 8th, 2004 2:42 PM

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Well, it isn't the shirt that is expensive, it's the print. It is always expensive to print t-shirts if you don't need much (hundreds) of them. There are cheaper methods (e.g. a t-shirt transfer printed with a color laser printer), but these methods gives you very bad quality. Of course I could use those methods and sell the shirts for lets say 8 euros. But if you wash those shirts a few time the print will be disappeared. I think you'dd better pay some more then and get a good shirt.

Only 0.75 euro? I could donate more, but then the shirts would become even more expensive. If you want to donate more to the Mozilla Foundation you can do that on mozilla.org.

#1 any chance of shipping that PHP shirt into the U.S

by smkatz

Sunday February 8th, 2004 7:02 PM

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or any other vendor shipping that design. it's so cool.

--Sam

#3 Re: what?!??!! 0.75?

by hark <mozillazine@komkommerkom.com>

Sunday February 8th, 2004 2:42 PM

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Well, it isn't the shirt that is expensive, it's the print. It is always expensive to print t-shirts if you don't need much (hundreds) of them. There are cheaper methods (e.g. a t-shirt transfer printed with a color laser printer), but these methods gives you very bad quality. Of course I could use those methods and sell the shirts for lets say 8 euros. But if you wash those shirts a few time the print will be disappeared. I think you'dd better pay some more then and get a good shirt.

Only 0.75 euro? I could donate more, but then the shirts would become even more expensive. If you want to donate more to the Mozilla Foundation you can do that on mozilla.org.

#2 generosity

by corwin

Sunday February 8th, 2004 2:32 PM

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err... 0.75 per T-shirt ? You are kidding arent' you ?

#4 Too little

by thelem

Sunday February 8th, 2004 2:49 PM

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I agree, people will buy these shirts to support Mozilla, not the shirt maker. I think you should make them 15 or 20, or possibly sell them for varying prices to encourage people to donate extra money to the mozilla foundation (eg a 15 shirt with 2.25 and a 20 shirt with 7.25 going to the foundation).

#8 Re: Too little

by an_mo

Sunday February 8th, 2004 4:11 PM

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you're forgetting that people will contribute to mozilla.org just by wearing them and showing them to people. I have never donated, but I'd be happy to wear a mozshirt.

#6 legality of all this ?

by corwin

Sunday February 8th, 2004 3:13 PM

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Sorry to stress this point, but what is the legality of all this process ? Do you have a contract with the Mozilla Foundation to sell T-shirts with their name and logo on it ? Their IP isn't open source you know. Are you sure that Mozilla.org isn't already planning a solution for European customers or that their current partner is not going to sur you ? :

"But we do strictly enforce our trademark rights. Our trademarks include, among others, the names Mozilla, Bugzilla and XUL, the Mozilla text logo and the red lizard logo. This means that, while you have considerable freedom to redistribute and modify our software, there are tight restrictions on your ability to use the Mozilla name and logos." Mozilla.org website

#7 Hmm...

by steeef

Sunday February 8th, 2004 3:50 PM

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I'm wondering that as well. I noticed their PHP shirt is quite similar to Copyleft's design: <http://www.copyleft.net/i…e=product_642_front.phtml>

#10 test

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Sunday February 8th, 2004 7:12 PM

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