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Nvu 0.1 Released

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004

Version 0.1 of Nvu, the open-source Web development tool based on Mozilla Composer, has just been released. The application, developed by Daniel Glazman's Disruptive Innovations for Linux distributor Lindows.com, is available for LindowsOS, other Linux distributions and Microsoft Windows from the Nvu download page.

Update: Windows users may have to copy the file msvcp70.dll and/or msvcr70.dll to the folder into which they extracted Nvu to get the program to run.

Another Update: Daniel Glazman has written a weblog post with more information about getting Nvu to work. In addition, the source code for Nvu 0.15 is now available via anonymous CVS.


#1 Download links are broken

by hcgtv

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 3:42 PM

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The links on the nvu page are broken, pulled out before penetration.

#2 Links are OK

by asteko

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 3:51 PM

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Links work fine with me.

#3 Great Show by Lindows!

by Jack

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 5:00 PM

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Wow! Gotta hand it to Lindows... with the bad blood between them and Microsoft, I didn't think a Windows version of Nvu would see the light of day, although it definitely looks like the HTML editor I've been looking for. Good to know it'll run on both OSs I own, (Windows 2000 and LindowsOS).

#4 Nice, but...

by robdogg

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 5:42 PM

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...it ain't HomeSite. Will check back.

#15 Homesite is so nice, you might want to try this...

by buff

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 7:04 AM

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I know what you mean. Homesite is so nice. I have been working on an extension for Mozilla/Firebird that is Homesite like in it's ability to show code and an in-line browser preview at the same time; all from within a Mozilla browser window or tab. Check it out here <http://mozedit.mozdev.org/>

-Mark

#5 Woooow

by MTO

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 7:31 PM

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Just gave it a test drive, I love what I am seeing. It's on the correct road to be a replacement for the expensive Dreamweaver.

I would like to see the selected object properties in the sidebar, that would be great.

And to think it's only on version 0.1... :) My eyes are wide open! :)

#6 Gave it a spin...

by WillyWonka

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 7:40 PM

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I gave it a spin but I couldn't do anything I wanted to do with it. It's back to notepad for me. (Create 2 columns using divs and create an external stylesheet and apply one of it's id's to a div)

#7 Thx

by glazou <daniel@glazman.org>

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 8:00 PM

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Thanks a lot again MozillaZine, those missing windows DLLs are going to kill me some day :-/ I posted more complete information about nvu-0.1 here : <http://glazman.org/weblog…php/2004/02/04/118-NvuNow>

#8 I'd like to try it

by Anthracks

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 8:11 PM

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I'd love to give this a try, but whenever I try to run it (on Mandrake linux 9.2) I get an error that the library libstdc++.so.3 can't be found. Does anyone know where I can find a working RPM or source tarball for this so I can enjoy the fruits of Daniel's labor? I googled around but all the seemingly promising rpms I found didn't solve the dependency issue. I've been looking forward to this release for a while :).

#9 Re: I'd like to try it

by Anthracks

Tuesday February 3rd, 2004 8:27 PM

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...and of course, while I was typing this, glazou comes up with the exact answer I needed. If anyone else has trouble getting nvu up and running on linux, follow the link he posted and read the directions. Thanks!

#19 Re: I'd like to try it

by Yaa101

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 9:13 AM

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Hi, make a extra symlink called libstdc++.so.3 pointing to libstdc++.so.5.0.5 This should help you...

#20 Re: Re: I'd like to try it

by james

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 6:06 PM

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That is _really_ bad advice. The reason there isn't a symlink from the newer library to libstdc++.so.3 is that they aren't binary compatible (the .so.3 library is for the old C++ ABI). Adding a symlink like that is just asking for a crash.

#10 nvu address

by danielwang <stolenclover@yahoo.com.tw>

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 12:15 AM

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What is the preferred address of nvu.com? <http://www.nvu.com> or nvu.com ? Nvu site links to lindow.com, but if you follow the link, you will find absolute links on lindow.com pointing to <http://www.lindow.com>, so www.*.com is the preferred form. I'd like to link to nvu.com and link it right.

for ref: mozilla : <http://www.mozilla.org> dmoz : dmoz.org

#11 Impressed

by lkisser

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 1:03 AM

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I tried it and I was impressed! Anyway does anyone know how to apply a named style that is created in CSS Editor to a selected text (not the whole paragraph)? I cannot find any command to do this, apart from keying in <span> myself in the HTML Source (or Insert|HTML...)

#16 Re: Impressed

by WillyWonka

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 7:21 AM

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I wasn't able to figure out a way either. It's probably not possible (or else it's in totally the wrong spot).

#12 I obviously must be doing something wrong...

by ogiesen

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 1:14 AM

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I downloaded and copied the VS7 DLLs but when I try to start nvu.exe nothing happens. The process shows up for a second in ProcessExplorer and then vanishes again... What else do I have to do? Are there maybe any required commandline parameters?

Running on W2K Pro SP4 + Hotfixes I also have a Scragz Firebird 0.8 build installed. Could this be causing any conflicts?

#28 Re: I obviously must be doing something wrong...

by ogiesen

Friday February 6th, 2004 2:23 AM

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Well, it worked right out of the box on my home machine but my work machine still won't run it, even though the two machines are almost identical in both hardware and software configuration, except that the home machine is running a German OS instead of English and the work machine has two monitors (though the Graphics chip is the same on both: Radeon 9200SE). I also only have a German localized Firebird 0.7 at home instead of the English 0.7 and 0.8+ at work...

Any ideas what might be causing this? My "need" for a good HTML editor is greater at work than at home, really...

#13 Locked DOCTYPE (Still)

by arky <silence@silence.tk>

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 2:23 AM

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Well great start I must say. There are still some really annoying features from the composer times that keeps me not to change to this editor. The thing that can't understand is why the DOCTYPE is locked on first row (on Source view)? I didn't even found an option to replace that with some else doctype? I hope there will be in some next release an ability to code some XHTML/XML compliant pages also.

#14 Nvu sources now available

by glazou <daniel@glazman.org>

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 6:52 AM

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#17 Mac?

by vramdal <vramdal@gmail.com>

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 8:30 AM

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I'm very impressed. Any chance of a Mac version?

#18 Also interested in a Mac version

by shorlander <stephen@noved.org>

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 9:12 AM

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I would also like a Mac version. I tried to build it from source but the app wouldn't launch.

#31 Re: Also interested in a Mac version

by stevie

Thursday March 4th, 2004 8:09 AM

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Me too! And it has been done, by at least one brave soul, see:

<http://www.noved.org/~ste…/public_files/nvu_osx.png>

I *don't* know how to do it, but I established a little web page to try and collect information about it. The gentleman who did it posted some information there, and if anyone else has any clues or hints please visit:

<http://www.simir.com/wiki/>

#21 Developer's Mailing List

by Pingveno <pingveno@comcast.net>

Wednesday February 4th, 2004 8:27 PM

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I tried signing up for the Developer's Mailing List, but nothing ever got sent to my mailbox. Has anyone else had this same problem?

-Pingveno

#22 I realize it's only an 0.1 but ...

by neilparks1

Thursday February 5th, 2004 10:24 AM

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... is there any chance that by approx 0.4, the definition list builder will insert properly alternating DT and DD lines?

#24 DL/DT/DD

by glazou <daniel@glazman.org>

Thursday February 5th, 2004 11:29 AM

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Yes :-) You'll have it for 0.2, I promise.

#23 nice editor for dummies

by jilles

Thursday February 5th, 2004 10:39 AM

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But miles away from either frontpage or dreamweaver. Dreamweaver is popular because it is both feature rich and (relatively) easy to use. NVU is just easy to use right now. It does sport a few nice features but it lacks a whole range of functionality that more advanced dreamweaver or frontpage users would expect.

However, lets be constructive. Some nice feature ideas: - syntax coloring, autocomplete in code view mode - integration of developers tools available for firebird (particularly the pnh bar, venkman etc). Maybe these should come as extensions. There's a whole bunch of nifty developers extensions that are of great use when debugging your webpage. - a way to define template documents ala dreamweaver. This is a really powerful feature that I haven't found anywhere else so far. I like to think of dreamweaver as a poor mans content management system (I have only static content on the server). Basically I would be using JEdit if it werent for this feature. - use divs to define page layout (dreamweaver has a UI for this).

Maybe it is not fair to look for this kind of functionality in a simple webeditor but they do claim to be in the same league as dreamweaver on their homepage. I surely would like to congratulate the NVU people, the program has come a long way since mozilla composer and is already a much better alternative in its current alpha stage. I sure hope to see similar progress as the two birds enjoyed in their 0.1 stages. I'll be downloading future releases to see how far things have progressed.

#26 Re: nice editor for dummies

by Pingveno <pingveno@comcast.net>

Thursday February 5th, 2004 6:27 PM

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One thing that shouldn't be done is to have a bunch of extensions for basic features. That's one thing I dislike about Mozilla - I can't just install it and have it run, I have to install a ton of extensions. For the point-and-click crowd, that's not a good idea.

The features are an excellent start, and I can't wait for a forum and feature request part to come up on the nvu.com.

-Pingveno

#27 Re: nice editor for dummies

by Pingveno <pingveno@comcast.net>

Thursday February 5th, 2004 7:34 PM

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One thing that shouldn't be done is to have a bunch of extensions for basic features. That's one thing I dislike about Mozilla - I can't just install it and have it run, I have to install a ton of extensions. For the point-and-click crowd, that's not a good idea.

The features are an excellent start, and I can't wait for a forum and feature request part to come up on the nvu.com.

-Pingveno

#25 OS X?

by mkelley

Thursday February 5th, 2004 4:04 PM

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I'd love to try this out, but there is not an OS X version. How 'bout some OS X love here?

#29 Wow.

by Zeron

Saturday February 7th, 2004 9:43 AM

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Interesting so far; A nice improvement over Mozilla Composer.

#30 test

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Sunday February 8th, 2004 10:55 AM

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test