Demise of Netscape Voted Most Significant Mozilla Event of 2003

Sunday January 11th, 2004

Last month, we asked you what you thought was the most significant event for the Mozilla project in 2003. The top choice was the demise of Netscape, which received 35% of the 1,947 votes cast. The launch of the Mozilla Foundation came second, with 29%, followed by the new end user focus (16%) and the new Roadmap (12%). The Firebird naming conflict finished in last place, with only 4% of voters considering it to be the most important event of last year.

For our first poll of 2004, we've picked five of the most popular Mozilla development books and want you to tell us which you think is the best. Choose from the Netscape Mozilla Source Code Guide, Essential XUL Programming, Creating Applications with Mozilla, Creating XPCOM Components or Rapid Application Development with Mozilla and watch the results to see which Mozilla book other readers favour.

#29 Re: I am starting to understand Tanyel

by bzbarsky

Tuesday January 13th, 2004 7:25 PM

You are replying to this message

> I don't see a lot of the bugs detting fixed.

Maybe, rather, it's that bugs are getting fixed that you don't notice? I suggest a look at the checkin logs to see what's being fixed. Quite a lot of good work going on, just not on the UI (and not on new UI features). So you may not even notice it, but the people who're out there trying to make their sites work with Mozilla sure notice; working well with sites is just as important as UI features to increasin the user base.

> Thunderbird still has no option to have one single master account

> and no advanced anti-SPAM features

These are both pretty advanced features; I get the impression that TB is focusing on slightly more basic things for now (it being in 0.4 and all).

> things like a true singlewindow mode

Which almost no one seems to care about (and none of the developers care about, which is why it's not happened).

> Read my first post in the forum link I posted

I read it before replying to your first post, of course (and I'm not sure why you had to start a new thread, btw). You mention a number of things in there that are real problems. I think everyone involved agrees on that.

> My First Post: "(bug fixes and security updates are fine,

What about changes to Gecko that are neither? Like new features? Should those not happen? ;)

> Because we will never capture a large enough market share if we concentrate on the suite.

Is the goal to lead in market share or write a good browser? Perhaps different people have different goals?

> the devs seemed to be too tied to it.

Perhaps because they can use it for dogfood? Up until very recently, firebird absolutely could not be used as a browser by anyone doing serious DOM or CSS work (no DOM inspector, no Venkman). Guess what developers spend their time doing?

What's the point of working for fun on a browser you don't use?

Things to ponder.