The Web Standards Project Skewers IE5

Friday March 19th, 1999

IE5 is "an opportunity lost", according to the Web Standards Project. The WSP, you may recall, recently claimed responsibility for moving towards an NGLayout based engine for Mozilla 5.

MozillaZine has been claiming for months that IE5 wouldn't be standards compliant (and we wish we had wagered money on it). It was obvious from articles regarding IE5, and from appearances at developer meetings by Microsoft executives that they were planning to ship IE5 whether they were compliant or not. They refused to commit when asked to, and fell back on the excuse of tight shipping schedules.

In other news, another developer's release of Mozilla is tentatively scheduled for the end of the month, so check back for updates.

Thanks to Derick Phillips for the WSP news.

#7 TAN: Version 3 Browsers WHAT?

by Caustic <>

Friday March 19th, 1999 10:10 PM

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Just thought I'd include my response from one of the older stories here too (it's still about IE5 in a way):

"Most people still use the 3.0 series of the browsers."

Before I was running a commercial internet site, I would have said the same thing! This view implies that most users don't think to download new versions of software, or it's all to hard. I must admit, I thought most "consumers" didn't know enough about computers to bother.

However, my stats on the site show that the fourth generation of browsers are the most common... Funnily enough, the ratios between NS3/NS4 and IE3/IE4 are quite different: There are more Netscape users using NS4 (as opposed to NS3) than there are IE users using IE4 (as opposed to IE3).

Does this mean Netscape users are smarter than Microsoft users? Perhaps. I'm willing to say that most Microsoft users are using it because that's all they know about (or have easy access to). All the more reason for regulating the software industry.

So what does that entail for IE5 and NS5/Mozilla? Oh, and is there a plan to include an easy setup for custom browsers (ie. for corporations and/or portals)? I think this would be a great way to make inroads into areas that IE has basically claimed so far.

Also, what do people think about IE5's "HTML Application" idea? I've been using it for my intranet design (sorry, but I've no choice in the matter) and it actually works quite well, especially from a user's perspective: Browsers are actually kind of confusing if you're using it to host an intranet "application". So, whatcha think?