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The Web Standards Project Skewers IE5

Friday March 19th, 1999

IE5 is "an opportunity lost", according to the Web Standards Project. The WSP, you may recall, recently claimed responsibility for mozilla.org moving towards an NGLayout based engine for Mozilla 5.

MozillaZine has been claiming for months that IE5 wouldn't be standards compliant (and we wish we had wagered money on it). It was obvious from articles regarding IE5, and from appearances at developer meetings by Microsoft executives that they were planning to ship IE5 whether they were compliant or not. They refused to commit when asked to, and fell back on the excuse of tight shipping schedules.

In other news, another developer's release of Mozilla is tentatively scheduled for the end of the month, so check back for updates.

Thanks to Derick Phillips for the WSP news.


#26 Re:The Web Standards Project Skewers IE5

by Numen <guy_murphy@dialog.com>

Wednesday March 24th, 1999 4:20 AM

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Hi.

Do you think maybe that MS are banking on the fact that by the time Mozilla finaly goes gold, IE6 will be in beta.

By that point any web designer wishing to play with XML + CSS and/or XSL (all be it only partialy compliant) will have been doing so for maybe 6 months in IE5.

Think about it. Unless Mozilla can go gold within a within the next 6 months it's lost as IE6 will be hot on it's tails.

You can bash IE5 all you want but *it is the most widely compliant browser in the market*.

Crow when Mozilla goes gold, to do so before simply reads as childish zealotry, as witnessed during the demise of OS/2, regardless of the fact that OS/2 Warp was a better OS than Windows.

I genuinely hope that Mozilla is released as the better browser, but every time I come over here are start gagging on the anti-MS BS.

I support the goal of producing the best browser possible, simply because that's a worthwhile goal. Trying to turn the issue into a Jihad is at best childish and at worst alienates an awful lot of developers.

Please, build yourself up, don't work at being the tallest by knocking the other chap down.

On a final note...

I have yet to see a post asking the obvious question...

"What can we learn from IE5?"

Until that question is addressed this cannot be regarded as a mature product venture.