The Web Standards Project Skewers IE5

Friday March 19th, 1999

IE5 is "an opportunity lost", according to the Web Standards Project. The WSP, you may recall, recently claimed responsibility for moving towards an NGLayout based engine for Mozilla 5.

MozillaZine has been claiming for months that IE5 wouldn't be standards compliant (and we wish we had wagered money on it). It was obvious from articles regarding IE5, and from appearances at developer meetings by Microsoft executives that they were planning to ship IE5 whether they were compliant or not. They refused to commit when asked to, and fell back on the excuse of tight shipping schedules.

In other news, another developer's release of Mozilla is tentatively scheduled for the end of the month, so check back for updates.

Thanks to Derick Phillips for the WSP news.

#24 More VB users than C/C++/Java

by John Stevens

Tuesday March 23rd, 1999 6:18 AM

You are replying to this message

"I don't know where you're getting your facts from, but there are many more C programmers (and C subsets, like Objective C, C++, and Java) than VB people. Let's just go on chronological data here. C was created in the 70's. When was VB created? methinks that C had a great head start on people who used it."

Let's base this on the number of users, not chronology. The fact is that there are many more VB users than C and its derivatives. I don't have a handy reference for this, but you should believe it.

I know that many of you look down at VB developers. You think they are idiots. It's just this kind of thinking that will prevent you from meeting the needs of the very large VB developer community.

People use VB because it helps them get their job done. Sure, the languge sucks. But the development environment rocks. Nothing touches it.