The Web Standards Project Skewers IE5

Friday March 19th, 1999

IE5 is "an opportunity lost", according to the Web Standards Project. The WSP, you may recall, recently claimed responsibility for moving towards an NGLayout based engine for Mozilla 5.

MozillaZine has been claiming for months that IE5 wouldn't be standards compliant (and we wish we had wagered money on it). It was obvious from articles regarding IE5, and from appearances at developer meetings by Microsoft executives that they were planning to ship IE5 whether they were compliant or not. They refused to commit when asked to, and fell back on the excuse of tight shipping schedules.

In other news, another developer's release of Mozilla is tentatively scheduled for the end of the month, so check back for updates.

Thanks to Derick Phillips for the WSP news.

#23 Re:The Web Standards Project Skewers IE5

by Kovu <>

Tuesday March 23rd, 1999 12:21 AM

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I am not 12, or pimply, and I too have a job, editing "Dummies for" manuals for IDG Worldwide. While I do not work with much code other than HTML at this point, I do develop websites and can say that NS has every opportunity to improve on Frontpage--it's not that great--and I REALLY agree that doing so will significantly boost the influence of NS5.0, as well as its longevity in the industry.

Re MS: While MS grew significantly last year, there are several reasons to believe this growth is slowing. <> Also, while MS servers may well be packed with downloaders of IE, only those who are ditching NS in favor of IE (not those, like myself, who have both (though so far I have stuck with IE4) would increase IE's market share. Last I checked it was about 48% to NS 44%, a lead but not much of one, and AOL transition will change that by at least 20%. While IE has taken the lead it is not by that much.

I agree that Composer needs serious help to kick Navigator 5.0 into high gear, personally I would much rather use Composer, which at this point I largely ignore because of its too limited functionality. But that is a question of how much AOL is willing to give away free and that is not something I can comment on.

As to NSs layoff of employees, those 30% are comprised exclusively of marketing and sales positions that are already duplicated at AOL. If AOL is good at anything, it is marketing and sales, and, to be quite blunt, probably better than those of the former sovereign NS.

Also, when zontar said "flaming naysayers," I think he indeed meant engagement and debate. This thread is nothing if not (a little too, admittedly) engaging.