IE5 Preview at

Wednesday March 17th, 1999

So, news about IE5 is beginning to trickle out, and it's beginning to look a lot like Mozilla. The equivalent of a "What's Related" button has been added as well as a "Web Accessories" feature that we got a glimpse of last year with Mozilla's configurable chrome. No indication of standards compliance (still). My latest bet is that IE5 won't even be HTML4 compliant, much less CSS1 compliant.

IE5 is supposed to be released tomorrow. I'd be interested in knowing the download sizes for the different installs. Feel free to submit info to us tomorrow, if you're brave enough to download it.

#25 Re:IE5 Preview at

by Mark Wilson

Saturday March 20th, 1999 1:05 AM

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This talk of building frames for Composer is setting the sights so ridiculously low that any work done to achieve it is simply wasted work. No, what is needed is Aurora thinking, DOM-Javascript thinking, OSS extensibility, making web pages into object which are easily manipulated from outside. Making server extensions to web servers (the MS Frontpage extensions are available on UNIX, NT and others...) to increase the tight fit of Mozilla/NS and the Composer and the web servers.

I have been thinking about the XPFE and its sexy crosss-platformness. And you know what I realised? After being so excited I realised that this is a C world you all are living in. It's like being racist or sexist. I as a VB developer (the largest group and the group which churns out the most work, because we reuse objects and components) we are sidelined. Mozilla's good ideas are aimed squarely a a minority market.

Unless you win the MASS of developers over, we will continue to develop in the environment which leverages our existing skills and existing components the best.

So, without us, who is it who is actually going to benefit from all your hard work? If I don't build with Composer, then how am I going to deliver your standards to my clients?? So, let's remember that for all the exiting stuff you are doing, it's still the market forces and the developers you hav to win over.

This battle is not yet finished.