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IE5 Preview at News.com

Wednesday March 17th, 1999

So, news about IE5 is beginning to trickle out, and it's beginning to look a lot like Mozilla. The equivalent of a "What's Related" button has been added as well as a "Web Accessories" feature that we got a glimpse of last year with Mozilla's configurable chrome. No indication of standards compliance (still). My latest bet is that IE5 won't even be HTML4 compliant, much less CSS1 compliant.

IE5 is supposed to be released tomorrow. I'd be interested in knowing the download sizes for the different installs. Feel free to submit info to us tomorrow, if you're brave enough to download it.


#2 Re:IE5 Preview at News.com

by Mark Wilson <mark_tracey@xtra.co.nz>

Wednesday March 17th, 1999 1:07 PM

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Tell you what though, I truly believe in two things...

One is Mozilla will beat it in speed and size and standards-compliance.

Two as a developer it will hurt me to say that I have to develop for IE5 - althouh both have XML/DOM etc... MS has done the usual trick of making the XML and the DOM objects which I can use from Visual Interdev, Visual Basic and even from withing VB Script on a web page.

I applaud Mozilla for its efforts, but this versio nyou are preparing is only half way to the finish line. You will win the speed, size and standards competition - BUT ONLY IN THE NEXT RELEASE can you focus on winning the developers minds.

What will it take? massive changes to Javascript, so it looks more like the DHTML which they use (use *sync toc* in IE or use *show toc* in mozilla - use IE though, it looks better): <http://www.microsoft.com/…rkshop/author/default.asp>

Also, developers desperately need information like this (use IE to view it, bcoz it has DHTML in it): <http://www.microsoft.com/workshop/default.asp> <http://www.microsoft.com/…XMLDOMDocument_object.asp> <http://www.microsoft.com/…#/xml/tutorial/use_om.asp>

I hope you understand me. I love this project and the work it is doing. I want this project to deliver the most amazing and developer-friendly product. You have got the user-friendliness sussed, now don't stop, go for the developers.

Making a compliant ActiveX control was great, but its only a drop in the oceanus. Look at those links above and read them. In terms of developer features and ease of use, you guys and especially: 1. The Composer 2. The Javascript and DHTML design must ne extended 3. Mozilla XPFE

Good luck and I hope you take this challenge up. You guys can do it, you have shown your abilities to deliver.