Minutes of the mozilla.org Staff Meeting of Monday 24th November 2003
Tuesday December 2nd, 2003
The minutes of the mozilla.org staff meeting of Monday 24th November 2003 are now online. Issues discussed include the website, Mozilla 1.5.1, Mozilla 1.6 Beta, Mozilla Thunderbird, localised language packs and builds on CD, points of contact for questions, CVS over SSH and relicensing.
#1 Sounds good!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 12:45 AM
Localised packs/builds on CD
* Bart has a list of 5 localizations we want
This sounds like a very good idea!
#2 Re: Sounds good!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 1:20 AM
Those five are French, Italian, German, Japanese and Chinese (simplified.) Hopefully the plan for making this happen will soon be released; I can't guarantee, but I hope we can offer space on the CD to anyone who produces a pack in the right timescale which is of sufficient quality.
#4 Re: Re: Sounds good!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 2:36 AM
A good start, though Spanish seems to be a major omission. I suppose pages like this:
give an idea of the languages it would be nice to add next.
Though I expect the real issue is the existence and stability of the respective localisation project:
#7 Re: Re: Re: Sounds good!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 7:08 AM
Yes, I cant believe Spanish is being left out of this! That must be a major omission by error, by ERROR I hope.
Spanish (es-ES) shouldnt be ommitted, I hope that list of 5 localizations changes, urgently!
#10 Re: Re: Re: Sounds good!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 8:57 AM
As Gerv said, we're still working on this and we'd certainly like to have Spanish (and any other well tested and completed in time language packs) on the CD as well.
#11 Re: Re: Sounds good!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 9:01 AM
I miscommunicated in the staff meeting. It's actually 6 language packs that wet'll be directly pursuing: 1- German 2- French 3- Japanese 4- Chinese 5- Italian 6- Spanish There are others that we'd certainly consider taking if they are well tested and completed by the time we're ready to ship the CD.
#3 1.5.1 today?
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 1:44 AM
The minutes mention 1.5.1 being "today". But wasn't 1.5.1 a Mac-only release that already happened?
#5 Re: 1.5.1 today?
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 3:21 AM
Check the title... "The minutes of the mozilla.org staff meeting of Monday 24th November 2003 are now online."
#6 Re: Re: 1.5.1 today?
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 6:25 AM
Er, yeah... :)
#8 no spanish?
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 7:20 AM
the second us language? the most country wise spoken language in the world?
#9 Re: no spanish?
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 8:32 AM
And a language for which the localization is downloaded less often than the localizations for the five languages mentioned in the release notes?
#12 Re: no spanish?
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 10:56 AM
Well, I do not know about the Spanish localisation per se, but it could be that most downloads of it are made at http://nave.escomposlinux.org/ (or any of the other Spanish localisation websites) ... for the Slovene pack, we "advertise" solely our website, and get on average ~850 downloads of our language pack or localised builds per month of the Mozilla Suite alone (+370 Firebird, +430 Thunderbird), and the ftp.mozilla.org statistics showed a meagre 89 downloads at one point I think. Which is quite big a difference I should think!
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 11:46 AM
...there are three different Spanish localization packs (es-ES, es-AR and es-HN), apart from many people download them directly from the localization websites. Also, yo may like to know that Spanish has more NATIVE languages that English ;-)
Wednesday December 3rd, 2003 12:14 PM
I used to have a gb locale for Mozilla installed. The number of changes it made were tiny, but it's amazing how much difference it makes having a program that says colour instead of color etc. It would be really nice if the english version included the uk locale, as well as the us, but don't worry - I'm not suggesting it go on the cd!
As an aside, does Firebird have options for locale, or are they hidden atm? I can't see them anywhere.
Thursday December 4th, 2003 11:38 AM
any update on this?
#16 "Programmatically finding and fixing dead links"
Friday December 5th, 2003 12:00 PM
By coincidence I found a piece of software mentioned on The Inquirer which does this and it appears to be freeware.
Maybe it'll help the developers (hoping they'll read this, how do I get a message to the person who's doing the new mozilla.org website if they don't find this?)
#17 Re: "Programmatically finding and fixing dead link
Saturday December 6th, 2003 2:36 PM
What a pain to download that software -- I had to give out all my info (including phone number) and I had to visit like 10 pages just to get the software -- arg!