Full Article Attached Open XUL Alliance Launches Wiki Wiki

Thursday November 20th, 2003

Gerald Bauer writes in with news that the Open XUL Alliance now has a Wiki. The Open XUL Alliance is a site about XUL and related XML-based declarative user interface languages. A Wiki (sometimes called a Wiki Wiki) is a collection of pages that can be freely contributed to and edited by anybody. Read the full article for more details.

#9 For anyone who's not aware...

by FrodoB

Friday November 21st, 2003 10:15 AM

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Gerald Bauer also floats around the Java community (especially forums and Javalobby forums), labeling the Java Community Process (which, I agree, has some issues) such colorful names as "Java Cartel Process", galvanizing groups of more or less like-minded people into pro open-source Java or anti open-source Java.

For those not familiar with the topic, Gerald argues that the JCP is not open enough using ad hominem attacks and rhetorical questions, whereas the supporters on the other side of the issue argue that the JCP is open enough (I don't think I've heard anyone argue for less openness than the JCP), often using those same tactics. The average Java developer falls somewhere in the middle, wanting to get real work done (which licensing squabbles hamper) but fearing some of the ramifications of complete open-sourcing of the language, considering the fragmentation of C++ and Microsoft's attacks on Java. Most Java developers support a Mozilla or Linux style system where the core is ruled by a benevolent dictator to prevent forking (the fear of which is due to the aforementioned Microsoft attacks on the platform). In short, while I respect Gerald's right to hold his opinion (and in many cases I agree with him on the issue at hand), I disagree with his tactics. Notice above, how he tells jgraham to "grow up" for simply pointing out that XUL is a specific language, not a generic one.

(As for me, I wouldn't really want XUL to be the common acronym. The Ghostbusters references are pretty specific to Mozilla's source code.)