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Minutes of the mozdev Admin Meeting of Monday 17th November 2003

Tuesday November 18th, 2003

David Boswell sent us a link to the minutes of the mozdev admin meeting of Monday 17th November 2003. Issues discussed include mozdev's non-profit status, date/time standards, email aliases and the site redesign.

#1 Please use the ISO standard (8601) for dates!

by johann_p

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 6:37 AM

With Mozilla being a lot about the adoption of international standards, why not use the ISO standard for dates throughout: YYYYMMDD - simple, sortable, international, standard conforming.

#2 Re: Please use the ISO standard (8601) for dates!

by peterlairo

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 7:12 AM

Agreed! But shouldn't that be yyyy-mm-dd (with dashes)? ;-)

PS. What parts of mozilla were you referring to? Whatever dates the user *sees* should be displayed according to the OS setting.

#3 Please use the ISO standard (8601) for dates!

by johann_p

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 7:54 AM

I was referring to the paragraph about date formats in the minutes ... which is about the date format used on the web site. Within Mozilla, I would still like a preference to override the format since sometimes one is forced to use an OS which does not use the ISO format, but still wants the ISO format. There is a way to do this via environment variables (at least under linux), but most users will not know it nor will they know how to use it. PS: as far as I know, both yyyymmdd and yyyy-mm-dd are valid - with the latter far more readable and preferable.

#4 A couple of links

by Malc

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 8:54 AM

http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format.html http://www.dmxzone.com/showDetail.asp?TypeId=2&NewsId=4828

#10 Re: Re: Please use the ISO standard (8601) for dat

by alanjstr

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 4:44 PM

This is talking about the mozdev.org website, not how your browser shows dates on a directory listing.

#8 Re: Please use the ISO standard (8601) for dates!

by bugs4hj

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 3:44 PM

I would go for DD-MM-2003 and not anything else. There are by far more countries that use this 'standard' and nothing else. All US agencies, army, navy, airforce and other military services, world wide, use *this* 'standard', and nothing else. So, it's the military norm, and nothing else for me :-)

#9 Simply not true

by johann_p

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 4:26 PM

While what you say may be true for the US it is simply not true that this format is used by a majority of countries. As with the metric system, the ISO date standard has been adopted in many countries as the format for official use. But I think both YYYY-MM-DD and DD-MM-YYYY are ok, but please do not use anything else, specifically and by all means avoid the terrible MM-DD-YYYYY format!

#5 I still can't open any mozdev link

by Juan_Rey

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 9:37 AM

I haven't been for some months. Am I the only one?

Anyway, this link will do http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey&selm=3FB93845.4090304%40mozilla.org

#6 WFM

by Malc

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 12:33 PM

What happens when you try? WFM with Mozilla 1.4.1 (NT5) and Mozilla Firebird 0.7 (NT5.1).

#7 Reply

by Racer

Tuesday November 18th, 2003 12:38 PM

Mozdev changed its dns entry a while back, perhaps your dns server isn't getting updated for some reason. Try http://167.206.76.23