Government Approval for AOL/Netscape/Sun Deal

Friday March 12th, 1999

The DoJ has given a thumbs-up to the AOL/Netscape/Sun acquisition/merger/strategic alliance. You can read about it at and at Infoworld.

#18 Re:Government Approval for AOL/Netscape/Sun Deal

by George

Sunday March 14th, 1999 4:52 PM

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To C.R.,

C.R. Wrote: "The truth is AOL will *NOT* distribute Netscape Comm as the AOL web client. Steve Case said it: they need that AOL icon on the Windows desktop. And that will stand even when Communicator 5.0 will be available!!!"

Ya, AOL also said that Netscape5.0 will be the base for AOL5.0, which will be released in the 4th quarter of 1999.

Right now, AOL uses a proprietary format called "rainman". If AOL uses Netscape5.0 as the base, then AOL can use HTML as the standard format AOL uses. This is what AOL wants. So instead of advertisers making Ads in some other format, then can use HTML. Second, AOL rather have it's own browser, instead of relying on IE??

I don't think AOL wants to rely on Microsoft..

C.R Wrote: "Currently, IE 4x is definitely a supperior product to Comm 4x. people like still use Netscape because they are biased against MS, not because of better quality. What will happen when that gap will increase (IE5x vs. the same old Comm 4x? Netscape's market will decrease dramatically."

Well, IE5.0 doesn't do any thing new or better than IE4.0, so Netscape users will just stick with Communicator. Why instill a browser that takes up over 100 megs? Ya, IE starts up 5 seconds faster than Netscape, but IE slows your whole computer down what's the point of useing it??

You can't take IE off your computer.

These things i just don't like.

C.R. Wrote: "Normally, that would still be ok. Because a good product can regain market. But take a look at Raptor. It has a completely nonrealistic approach (just check the RDF usage!!! :)))). In an independent company that would work. Not in AOL. AOL wants results. They will either terminate the project or require a premature release. And that would be the end: another inferior product."

AOL wants results? I am sorry, but they bought ICQ for 300 million, and ICQ has yet to earn AOL 1 dollar?? Look, i own AOL shares and Netscape shares. I know AOL's business strategy...

I guess since you know AOL so well, they are going to terminate ICQ, cause it hasn't shown any results, huh?

Let me ask you this question...Why did AOL buy Netscape if they didn't believe in their product? Steve Case would be a petty dumb businessman to buy a company for 4.2 billion then terminate their main product..

If AOL wanted a portal they would have bought a better portal like Excite or Lycos. They already had a 10-15% stake in Excite..

C.R. Wrote: "And no, external developers will not continue the Mozilla project. Mozilla is Netscape's child. Its development is really far from open."

Far from open? Supporting 100% standards sounds good to me...

C.R. Wrote: "I'm really bitter about Netscape: I belived in them and I hated when they sold to AOL. However, my last hope is that I'm completely wrong and you guys are right. Of course, I'm too cinical to actually belive that..."

I'm sorry, but AOL isn't going to turn Netscape into this bad company. If any thing, AOL will help with it's marketing experience and market power. AOL has better marketing then Microsoft in my opinion. AOL has the person who started "I want my MTV!"

Also, in 5 years computers aren't going to the main device people use to connect to the internet. PDAs, Cell phones, TVs, cable boxes, gaming machines will all connect to the net. All these machines will outnumber PCs connecting to the net and most importantly they will need a browser...

hmmm...i wonder which one they would use??

Sony's upcoming console might use Linux. I wonder which browser they could use? I know IE doesn't work on Linux. So if Sony uses Linux, then they could use Netscape as there browser (sinse Netscape will support standards 100%). Right now, over 50 million households own a Sony Playstation. Probably around 40-70 million will own a Playstation2.

Maybe, these are just some of the reasons AOL bought Netscape?? Hmmm...

I mean, Mozilla is working on making their browser small enough to fit on a floppy. Or small enough to fit on a PalmPilot. I know IE's 40 megs wont fit on a hand-held computer, but Mozilla will.

I can tell you one thing...more devices will be connecting to the net and they wont be using a M$ OS. People are sick of Microsoft.