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Full Article Attached K-Meleon 0.8 Released

Monday November 10th, 2003

Version 0.8 of K-Meleon, the Mozilla-based Windows browser, has been released. Read the full article for more details from Andrew Mutch.


#1 its ok

by techn9ne

Monday November 10th, 2003 7:17 PM

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Its ok release... Firebird windows has more features, and more user-friendly. Kmeleon is a little bit faster than Firebird though.

#2 Great!

by nosebleed <nosebleed@myrealbox.com>

Monday November 10th, 2003 9:25 PM

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Although, it's rarely updated. It's blazingly fast, especially for people like me with crappy old computers :)

#4 Re: Great!

by MozSaidAloha

Monday November 10th, 2003 11:24 PM

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Damn right, nosebleed.

I find that K-Meleon renders faster than the App suite AND Moz F-Bird. Now that Galeon, K-Meleon, and Epiphany have cranked out new releases, let's hope that inspires the Camino hackers...

#3 Crashes on me..

by frease

Monday November 10th, 2003 10:09 PM

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K-Meleon is fast but it crashes on me nearly every session. It is still a little too buggy for my taste.

#5 Report crashes

by amutch

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 5:20 AM

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As someone who has used K-Meleon since 0.4 and many of the flavors of Mozilla, the last several releases of K-Meleon, in my experience, have been very stable even compared to the other Mozilla browsers. With the exception of known problems, you shouldn't be getting regular crashes. Please take a minute to report your problems at our Forums so we can track down the cause of that. Thanks!

#6 Bookmarks

by yerfatma

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 7:25 AM

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I know it's probably a stupid question, but can someone tell me how to import bookmarks from 0.7 to 0.8? I have a number of bookmarks in 0.7, but I can't find a bookmarks.html file to import for 0.8. Thanks.

#7 Re: Bookmarks

by dave532

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 9:09 AM

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Doesn't it just use your IE/Netscape/Opera bookmarks?

There's plugins to support each of these bookmark data sources, all are enabled by default. Don't think there's any K-mel specific bookmarks.

#8 Re: Re: Bookmarks

by yerfatma

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 11:50 AM

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Hrrmm. Maybe so. I've tried to keep my K-mel bookmarks from intefering with other browsers on my machine, but maybe I'm just using the Opera bookmark set and not noticing the changes because I never open Opera at home.

#9 Launcher

by Ara <falconblade@hotmail.com>

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 12:44 PM

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I have to say, this browser is pretty fast, and the launcher is stable. It amazes me that the launcher for the suite has not made use of this. I wonder if it's possible for the suite to make use of similar code as this K-meleon launcher? It's so fast on launching, that yeah... I'm impressed...

#10 Why K-meleon isn't here?

by boily

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 2:37 PM

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Under the MozillaZine logo, we can see links that point to Mozilla and other relative products. So why K-meleon isn't here?

#11 Re: Why K-meleon isn't here?

by nilson <nilson@gmail.com>

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 4:08 PM

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The list only has products made by the Mozilla Foundation. There should be a page that lists all known projects, though.

#14 Re: Re: Why K-meleon isn't here?

by mlefevre

Wednesday November 12th, 2003 11:19 AM

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#12 Improvement

by martrootamm

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 5:09 PM

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It's definitely an improvement over 0.7SP1, but it does not work on one of the slow Windows 98 computers. The Windows 98 version is Service Pack 1 there and supposedly contains all the files required by K-Meleon, but it just does not work there. Although it works nicely in Windows 98 Second Edition. I haven't had any chances to check if it works in a Windows 95 environment, because Windows 95 is now very rare everywhere. People now have Windows 98 as the most wide-spread Windows OS.

One thing that I wish K-Meleon would have would be a possibility to reload frames individually.

Overall it's a good improvement, with a bit more eye candy /see toolbar buttons, for example... One good improvement is the Go button. Another added feature was mimicking the UserAgent to something else, but listed UserAgents should be updated.

Another thing that's missing in Help/About data is information on which Gecko version/revision is being used.

While an improvement, it still feels as it is still slated for select older computers...

#13 about:

by amutch

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 6:57 PM

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about: in the URL bar will let you know which version of Gecko K-Meleon is using.

#15 What's with the 'layers' thing

by ryampolsky <ryampols@cjds.com>

Wednesday November 12th, 2003 11:35 AM

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K-Meleon 0.8 seems to have implemented mozilla-type tabs under the name 'layers'.

Question. Are layers and tabs the same, or do layers provide some additional functionality?

Complaints. No 'show layers only when multiple are present' option. No 'close layer' button (need to right-click and select from menu)

Other impressions. Nice toolbar manipulation. Easier to use than Firebird's, though not as flexible. Gotta like the launch speed on an older machine, though Firebird's fine on a new machine. Some annoying quirks - doesn't remember window position (insists on starting out with half the window offscreen).

#17 Re: What's with the 'layers' thing

by Mad

Friday November 14th, 2003 10:45 AM

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> No 'close layer' button (need to right-click and select from menu)

You can easily add a new toolbar with a button to close the current layer. You can then place this toolbar at the far right side of the layer toolbar, just like in Firebird.

Here are the modification:

In toolbar.cfg add (in the skins directory):

Layer Buttons { Close_Layer { macros(close_layer) Close Layer toolhot.bmp[2] toolcold.bmp[2] tooldead.bmp[2] } }

in macro.cfg:

close_layer { %ifplugin layers plugin(layers,Close) %endif }

#18 Re: Re: What's with the 'layers' thing

by Mad

Friday November 14th, 2003 10:46 AM

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Oups, hard returns vanished.

In toolbar.cfg add (in the skins directory):

Layer Buttons { Close_Layer { macros(close_layer) Close Layer toolhot.bmp[2] toolcold.bmp[2] tooldead.bmp[2] } }

in macro.cfg:

close_layer { %ifplugin layers plugin(layers,Close) %endif }

#16 Layers, etc.

by amutch

Wednesday November 12th, 2003 11:53 AM

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ryampolsky,

"Question. Are layers and tabs the same, or do layers provide some additional functionality?"

No, they are not the same but they provide the same functionality. I don't use tabs enough to know if we have additional functionality beyond what tab users in Mozilla get. Some of our other users can probably answer that better.

"Complaints. No 'show layers only when multiple are present' option."

I need to check on that.

"No 'close layer' button (need to right-click and select from menu)"

Do you have a scrollwheel or middle button on your mouse? You can use that to close layers.

"Some annoying quirks - doesn't remember window position (insists on starting out with half the window offscreen)."

That's a known issue which we are working on getting resolved. There's a workaround but we hope to have a fix soon. Unfortunately, it cropped up due to a last-minute change in code to address another issue. We'll get it fixed.