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Pinstripe New Default Theme for Mozilla Firebird on Mac OS X

Sunday November 9th, 2003

The latest nightly build of Mozilla Firebird for Mac OS X now features Kevin Gerich's Pinstripe as the default theme. The skin received several enhancements in preparation for its inclusion in the standard OS X builds, including a new set of icons from Stephen Horlander. A screenshot of the new-look Pinstripe is available.

The Pinstripe theme was originally created for the Mozilla Application Suite before being ported to Firebird. The skin is designed to match the native look and feel of Mac OS X and better conform to the Aqua Human Interface Guidelines. As the theme relies on OS X's own Appearance Manager to draw some widgets and backgrounds, it is not available for Windows or Linux.

Mac OS X users can experience the new theme by downloading the latest Firebird nightly build.


#1 camino?

by techn9ne

Sunday November 9th, 2003 7:27 PM

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Is firebird going to replace camino now?

#2 Re: camino?

by jedbro

Sunday November 9th, 2003 8:22 PM

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No of course not, but it is available for Mac, so it should have a different look and feel then the windows version.

#3 Camino?

by techn9ne

Sunday November 9th, 2003 10:33 PM

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If firebird uses the native OSX wigets for L&F ... what is the point of camino then?

#4 Re: Camino?

by WillyWonka

Sunday November 9th, 2003 10:45 PM

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But Firebird doesn't use the native wigets.

#10 Re: Re: Camino?

by thomasz44l

Monday November 10th, 2003 8:21 AM

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It doesn't?

<I>"As the theme relies on OS X's own Appearance Manager to draw some widgets and backgrounds, it is not available for Windows or Linux."</I>

#11 exactly

by joschi

Monday November 10th, 2003 9:41 AM

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the XUL widgets just ask the Appearance Manager how they should look, firebird is not using the native widgets.

#12 Re: Re: Re: Camino?

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Monday November 10th, 2003 10:29 AM

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#5 Re: Camino?

by erwan

Sunday November 9th, 2003 11:26 PM

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Same as Galeon and Firebird, as on Linux both are gtk2: one is just a Gecko browser and the other is full XUL. People who want a deep integration of their browser in their desktop may choose Galeon or Camino, those who prefer to benefit of a XUL browser (extensions, themes, customizability...) would choose Firebird.

#7 Re: Re: Camino?

by james

Monday November 10th, 2003 1:29 AM

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Of course if integration with the desktop is your primary concern, you would probably choose Epiphany over Galeon ...

#8 Re: Camino?

by erwan

Monday November 10th, 2003 1:46 AM

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Yes, I was hesitating between Galeon and Epiphany as an example. I end up thinking that Epiphany being the official web browser for Gnome, it should be compared to Safari on the mac, even if one is Gecko and the other khtml.

Galeon and Camino are for people who feel the need to have more features in their browser than the default one.

#9 Re: Camino?

by neilturnerUK

Monday November 10th, 2003 1:47 AM

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Same reason why both Firebird and K-Meleon are available for Windows.

#6 very nice

by pizzach

Sunday November 9th, 2003 11:58 PM

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I'm very impressed! This is much better than having people spurt their coffee when they see a Mac OS X app with a XP theme. :)

#13 I liked the icons in the beta version better

by devhen

Monday November 10th, 2003 2:50 PM

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I liked the Pinstripe theme's icons much better when it was in beta. The new Safari-like icons are IMO not only ugly but also seem to say "we copied Safari because we can't come up with anything better" which I don't think is the case. Like I said, I think the Pinstripe's beta icons were much more original and eye-pleasing. Just my .02.

#14 Re: I liked the icons in the beta version better

by LinkTiger <LinkTiger@myrealbox.com>

Monday November 10th, 2003 4:39 PM

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But I thought the original looked like it was just a copy of IE:Mac. I know they're a little different, but these aren't EXACTLY like Safari's either. I like it, even if it is a little similar to other browsers.

#15 Re: Re: I liked the icons in the beta version bett

by devhen

Monday November 10th, 2003 8:03 PM

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You must be talking about the Pinstripe theme for Mozilla. It looks much like IE Mac. But the Firebird version had different icons. I liked those the best out of all three. They are extremely simple and obvious. IMO these are the most important aspects of a browser's GUI. I think browsers, possible more than any other application, should be extremely easy to use and the purpose of buttons and items in the GUI should be very obvious. There. Now you've got my $.04.

#16 Re: Re: Re: I liked the icons in the beta version

by devhen

Monday November 10th, 2003 8:05 PM

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Just to clarify: I'm talking about the icons used with Pinstripe for Firebird development version 0.4. The screenshot is here: <http://kmgerich.com/pinstripe/beta.html>

#17 Re: Re: Re: Re: I liked the icons in the beta vers

by luserpete <doane@canada.com>

Tuesday November 11th, 2003 1:28 AM

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i think the new icons are an improvement. i personally use camino with icons copied from mail.app