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Full Article Attached Minutes of the mozilla.org Staff Meeting of Monday 13th October 2003

Friday October 24th, 2003

The minutes of the mozilla.org staff meeting of Monday 13th October 2003 are now online. Issues discussed include Mozilla 1.5 final, Mozilla Firebird 0.7, Mozilla Thunderbird 0.3, CDs, the Roadmap update, Asa Dotzler's absence and the FTP mirror network.


#1 beta website

by permanentE

Friday October 24th, 2003 1:13 PM

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Wow, the beta website looks really good and thourough.

#7 Re: beta website

by imforumman

Saturday October 25th, 2003 2:31 AM

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Who are we wanting to download Mozilla? Gecko users, or IE users? Take a look at the site in IE (5.5) and you will see the site look quite bad. Just a thought...

#17 Re: Re: beta website

by elempoimen

Saturday October 25th, 2003 6:11 PM

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In my copy of IE6 (which has the majority of market share thanks to "forced" upgrades), it looks just fine--identical to Mozilla.

#15 Re: beta website

by flacco

Saturday October 25th, 2003 1:06 PM

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>> Wow, the beta website looks really good and thourough.

agreed - very "together" and polished - i'm jealous :-)

#2 Awed

by leet

Friday October 24th, 2003 5:00 PM

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I never liked the old, bony dino, but the site still looks amazing.

#3 No offense, but...

by adipose

Friday October 24th, 2003 5:37 PM

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...am I the only one who thinks that Firebird icons sucks? Ugh, it's so uninspiring, the F is just weird looking, and out of place. The colors are annoying...

Anything but that icon, please!

#4 Re: No offense, but...

by tve

Friday October 24th, 2003 6:14 PM

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Me likes. The F is supposed to look like a mix between a "F" and a wing. (A Firebird wing. ;)

Wish they would use it in the binaries instead of that ugly red flames icon...

#6 Re: Re: No offense, but...

by vineet

Saturday October 25th, 2003 12:20 AM

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I think that the 'F' could do better being a little smaller and to the bottom right (similar to the thunderbird flame)

#5 Re: No offense, but...

by tniem

Friday October 24th, 2003 8:40 PM

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I don't mind the logo, but I just don't understand the point of it. I mean it is not used in the actual browser - once you download it is the red flame thing. And it is different than any of the other logos on the page. No consistency. I would prefer one or the other.

#8 Re: No offense, but...

by stvb <ste-ve@freenet.co.uk>

Saturday October 25th, 2003 4:53 AM

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What is the Firebird icon? A globe with a large flame in the shape of an "F" coming out of it? What has that got to do with web browsers? I thought that when Fb became mainstream it would be called mozilla browser so there's no need for a globe? or an F! Long live the lizard!

#9 Re: Re: No offense, but...

by tve

Saturday October 25th, 2003 5:55 AM

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>>What is the Firebird icon? A globe with a large flame in the shape of an "F" coming out of it? What has that got to do with web browsers? [...] Long live the lizard!

Counter-question: What does a lizard head have to do with web browsers?

>>I thought that when Fb became mainstream it would be called mozilla browser so there's no need for a globe?

Well and that's happening when? "Maybe 1st quarter of 2004" was the last I heard.... Using a lizard head for a product called Firebird until then would surely not be the most intelligent thing to do, marketing-wise...

#10 Re: Re: Re: No offense, but...

by tniem

Saturday October 25th, 2003 9:33 AM

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<i>would surely not be the most intelligent thing to do, marketing-wise...</i>

Neither would changing the name yet again. I mean I will have no problems with the name change but what about those that I have convinced to install a copy on their computers? I had enough trouble getting it on there and then to convince them that Firebird is Phoenix and now this...

The less name changes the better.

#11 Re: Re: Re: No offense, but...

by tniem

Saturday October 25th, 2003 9:33 AM

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<i>would surely not be the most intelligent thing to do, marketing-wise...</i>

Neither would changing the name yet again. I mean I will have no problems with the name change but what about those that I have convinced to install a copy on their computers? I had enough trouble getting it on there and then to convince them that Firebird is Phoenix and now this...

The less name changes the better.

#19 Re: Re: Re: Re: No offense, but...

by leet

Saturday October 25th, 2003 9:31 PM

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You know, it IS going to change name when 1.0/2.0 comes out, so why not make it now rather than later when more people will have heard/seen the *bird names? A lot of people had argued that *bird names were mistakes. We don't have to rehash it, but I'd rather get the name changes final as far as user experiences are concerned, then to get people familiar with F*bird, T*bird, and then get rid of those names.

#12 I am the only one...

by nonpareility <jbird3000@hotmail.com>

Saturday October 25th, 2003 10:13 AM

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Who cares more about the new roadmap than the new website or icons?

#13 Re: I am the only one...

by mlefevre

Saturday October 25th, 2003 12:09 PM

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No, you're not. But things that exist are more likely to provoke discussion than things that don't. The lack of a new roadmap has been discussed a lot already. I'm sure there will be discussion of the roadmap when it eventually appears...

#14 talkback?

by mcsmurf

Saturday October 25th, 2003 12:28 PM

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any progress on talkback server and so?

#16 Re: talkback?

by demon

Saturday October 25th, 2003 5:49 PM

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dont think so, unless AOL are letting Mozilla use the Netscape talkback servers, since talkback.mozilla.org is pointing there...

#18 Re: talkback?

by doron

Saturday October 25th, 2003 6:47 PM

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More info regarding that should be hopefully posted soon.