Phoenity Online Store Launches
Saturday October 11th, 2003
Lim Chee Aun, creator of the Phoenity themes, writes: "As an effort to support the Mozilla Foundation, a Phoenity Cafepress.com Shop has been set up, selling merchandises and stuff with some Phoenity flavours. All profits will be donated to the Mozilla Foundation."
#1 Keep timing out :(
Sunday October 12th, 2003 9:19 AM
The links (The Phoenity store and mozillaZine's store) keep timing out. I just want to buy the phoenity equivalent of the mZ thong. :D
#3 Now I got it!
Sunday October 12th, 2003 10:06 AM
Now, I got it. Stuff looks great! No thong though. :(
What is with this guy and his Phoenity themes. They look like they were all created in Paint Shop Pro in about 10 minutes. Does anyone actually use them and like them?
#4 Re: I don't get it.
Sunday October 12th, 2003 10:08 AM
I don't know what is with this troll. But, Lim Chee Aun has created these themes for a number of applications and they make them look really nice and colorful.
I don't like the themes and don't understand why anyone would like them. If that makes me a troll, so be it.
#6 Re: I don't get it.
by seasleepy <email@example.com>
Sunday October 12th, 2003 3:15 PM
I don't like broccoli. I really don't get how anyone can like it: it's really nasty stuff. But, if I go to a restaurant and there's broccoli on the menu, I don't stand up in the middle of the restaurant and start shouting about how NOBODY could possibly like broccoli... I simply have something else.
And for the record, I wish someone would get the basic Phoenity theme up-to-date on Firebird so I can have my favorite theme back. :)
If I didn't like broccoli and went to a restaurant where almost 33% of the menu was broccoli(as 33% of the firebird themes are Phoenity themes), I would make a comment about it. The chef who prepared the broccoli probably wouldn't be offended, but maybe some dick at another table would get all defensive about his precious broccoli.
#11 Re: I don't get it.
by seasleepy <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sunday October 12th, 2003 5:00 PM
The amount of broccoli on the menu has nothing to do with anything....your choices are still the same: go to another restaurant or order something without broccoli. It's as simple as that.
The guy made all the these themes because a) he wanted to and/or b) people liked them and asked him to make more. In either case, it's his prerogative, not yours.
And if you think a chef wouldn't get upset with you if you complain about his choice of ingredients, you obviously don't know many chefs (or even watch Food Network much). ;)
No you're considered trolling because you're making Ad Hominem attacks rather than making useful comments. Phrases like 'They look like they were all created in Paint Shop Pro in about 10 minutes' and 'I don't like the themes and don't understand why anyone would like them' hardly represent a considered or well argued position. The fact is that many people like the phoenity themes and, if you do not, there is no need to share your bad feeling with the world.
#8 It is not the what, it is the how.
Sunday October 12th, 2003 3:25 PM
What made you a troll is not the fact that you dislike the theme - is the way you said it. You do not have to degrade a person's work or skills to express your dislike.
Contrary to other people, there are those like me who like simpliciy, and most importantly, a theme that makes the application look like a native app. Phoenity does both. The icons are simple yet easy to identify with what they do (and IMHO that's how icons should be), and Phoenity is right now the most native looking theme on Windows Classic, even better than Qute and Mozilla's Classic. In a few words, its simplicity makes Phoenity a very functional theme. This is the same reason why I like the Bluecurve icons above all other icon sets.
A theme doesn't need "cool" graphics with an overuse of transparency, gradients or 3D perspectives to be good.
I agree. But it also needs to not look like ass. Phoenity fails in that respect. Qute does everything you said and looks good while doing it. No point in arguing about what looks good though.
Sorry if my opinion is degrading to Lim Chee Aun. I think his skins look bad. He says himself he's not a professional graphic designer and this is just something he does in his free time. So hey, maybe he did make them in 10 minutes in Paint Shop Pro. That's only an insult if you want to take it that way.
Whatever you think of the theme (and I don't like it) he obviously didn't make it in 10 minutes in Paint Shop Pro. It's one of very few moderately properly done themes for Firebird. Most of the rest are much, much worse than Phoenity.
I had a quick look at the page and although I don't like the main Phoenity theme, Phoenity Modern (which looks not much like Phoenity and quite a lot like Modern) looks like the theme I'd use if I switched to Firebird. (If it worked...)
#14 Re: I don't get it.
Monday October 13th, 2003 2:34 AM
What is with this bill_brasky guy and his disparaging comments? They look like they were all created in Notepad in about 10 seconds. Does anyone actually read them and like them?
I don't like the posts and don't understand why anyone would like them. If that makes me a troll, so be it.
If I didn't like broccoli and went to a restaurant where almost 33% of the menu was broccoli (as 33% of the posts here are bill_brasky posts), I would make a comment about it. The chef who prepared the broccoli probably wouldn't be offended, but maybe some dick at another table would get all defensive about his precious broccoli.
It also needs to not look like ass. bill_brasky's posts fail in that respect.
Sorry if my opinion is degrading to bill_brasky. I think his comments look bad. He says himself he's not a professional writer and this is just something he does in his free time. So hey, maybe he did make them in 10 seconds in Notepad. That's only an insult if you want to take it that way.
#12 Re: It is not the what, it is the how.
Sunday October 12th, 2003 6:55 PM
>...Phoenity is right now the most native looking theme on Windows Classic...
What about Luna? IE looks pretty much the same on XP whether you're in Classic or ugly Luna (the Windows style), and I find Luna (the theme) is a nice way to keep Firebird similar to the UI of IE that I had used for so long.
All jokes aside, thankyou Lim Chee Aun for your generous efforts.