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Mozilla Firebird 0.7 and Mozilla Thunderbird 0.3 Release Candidates

Sunday September 28th, 2003

alanjstr wrote in to tell us that release candidate builds of Mozilla Firebird 0.7 are now available. Builds can be downloaded for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firebird/nightly/latest-0.7. The code for Firebird 0.7 will come from the Mozilla 1.5 branch, rather than the trunk.

Firebird is not the only Mozilla standalone application to be nearing a milestone release: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.3 is now up to its second release candidate with builds available from ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/2003-09-24-1.5. Like Firebird, Thunderbird 0.3 will come from the 1.5 branch, with developers hoping for a simultaneous release of Mozilla 1.5 and Thunderbird 0.3.


#1 Sweet, perfect timing

by Qeantk <shopping@timocracy.com>

Sunday September 28th, 2003 9:24 PM

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for some evangelizing as I know a couple people getting new computers very soon. TB seems to be coming along VERY quickly.

#2 Release Notes

by pepejeria

Sunday September 28th, 2003 10:48 PM

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Would have been nice if 0.7 RC had some relase notes, like Thunderbird and Mozilla always have.

#3 Crashes immediately

by johann_p

Monday September 29th, 2003 5:49 AM

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with the cryptic error: "INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?" and "System error?:: Success"

#4 Cause of the crash ...

by johann_p

Monday September 29th, 2003 6:01 AM

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Oh man, I just found the cause of the crash: FB is STILL using the plugin directory from the Mozilla profile, i.e. .mozilla/plugins ! That had a link to an old Java plugin version that caused the crash. Why does FB still use Mozilla"s plugin dir? Isn't it confusing enought that its own profile dir is still called "phoenix" ?

#5 Re: Cause of the crash ...

by mlefevre

Monday September 29th, 2003 6:22 AM

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I think there's a pref to turn it off.

On Windows, the behaviour of looking everywhere for plugins is useful - means you don't need to have multiple copies of the Java plugin so that each browser has one.

#6 Nothing to be said against looking ...

by johann_p

Monday September 29th, 2003 6:29 AM

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as long as the user knows about it and it can be turned off (I do not know of a pref). But if FB looks for plugins in other places, it should be something that is done interactively, e.g. at installation time. Once usable plugins are found the user should be able to decide whether FB should copy or link to the plugin files, or simply copy it (the space required is neglegible). And of course, FB should be able to a something similar with Mozilla"s password file, bookmarks, etc. (i.e. optionally convert a whole MozillaSuite profile - and clearly TB should do the same for the Mail part). Just silently *using* the Mozilla plugin directory is a very bad thing to do though.

#7 Re: Nothing to be said against looking ...

by mlefevre

Monday September 29th, 2003 6:42 AM

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I don't think copying third party files around on users system's without warning would be a good idea, and there's no way to "link" on Windows (well, there are shortcuts, but that wouldn't help here). There's also no Firebird installer, so anything like that would need to be done on starting the browser.

Having checked, looks like there may not be a way of disabling looking at .mozilla/plugins - the instructions for other pluging scanning are at <http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/notes.html#Scanning>

But I agree that this should be handled better. I'm just not sure how, without an installer and a significant amount of work. The stuff that happens now seems better than nothing to me.

#8 Re: Re: Nothing to be said against looking ...

by osmosis

Monday September 29th, 2003 9:12 AM

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Hi there...Newbie here....

There is an installer for FB at <HTTP://SEB.MOZDEV.ORG/FIREBIRD/>

It works for me several times as I've installed FB on several PC's.

Rod

#9 Re: Re: Re: Nothing to be said against looking ...

by mlefevre

Monday September 29th, 2003 9:23 AM

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argh... I did it again. Ok, there's no _official_ installer yet.

Maybe Seb could make his installer go further in sorting out the plugins that are on the system (it already adds some registry entries, which are useful for plugin installation).

#10 Re: Re: Re: Re: Nothing to be said against looking

by vfwlkr

Monday September 29th, 2003 11:31 PM

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There will be an official installer with 0.8 (unless the bug is re-targeted later)

#11 TB RC does not even start

by johann_p

Tuesday September 30th, 2003 1:33 AM

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Under linux, I am getting: "./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory " Now the strange thing is that both FB and Mozilla work fine on this system. So what is the point of requiring different library versions in TB?

#14 Re: TB RC does not even start

by pzappi <zappi@uol.com.br>

Friday October 31st, 2003 3:42 AM

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Same happens with me. I use Debian 3.0 and would like to know which libraries are required in order to make this build work.

Thanks, Paulo Zappi

#15 Re: TB RC does not even start

by pzappi <zappi@uol.com.br>

Friday October 31st, 2003 3:42 AM

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Same happens with me. I use Debian 3.0 and would like to know which libraries are required in order to make this build work.

Thanks, Paulo Zappi

#12 Still ugly on OS X

by Fireball1244 <fireball1244@mac.com>

Wednesday October 1st, 2003 4:14 PM

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Why does Firebird look so trashy on OS X? At the very least they could use a theme like the OS X-ish "Classic" theme in Mozilla 1.5. As it is, this thing is such an eyesore that I can't stand having it on my screen long enough to try it out.

#13 Re: Still ugly on OS X

by Fireball1244 <fireball1244@mac.com>

Wednesday October 1st, 2003 4:16 PM

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Oh, but the new icon is very nice, and much appreciated.

#16 same for me

by manitgt <mani@nmsworks.co.in>

Tuesday June 7th, 2005 11:05 PM

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same for me in RedHat 7.2