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Full Article Attached RJ Tarpley's Coffee Company Raises Over $400 for the Mozilla Foundation

Saturday September 20th, 2003

Bart Decrem writes in news about the money raised for the Mozilla Foundation by RJ Tarpley's Coffee Company, which began selling a range of Mozilla coffees last month: "Remember the announcement about Mozilla coffees? This project has already raised over $400 for The Mozilla Foundation during the first two weeks of its introduction. Now they're offering 5lbs bags too."

Bart also attached an update from Ron Tarpley, the owner of RJ Tarpley's Coffee Company. Read the full article to find out more.


#1 Just bought a bag!

by jareha

Saturday September 20th, 2003 3:30 PM

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Of Enviro Lizard. Made sure to note that I'd like (some) proceeds to go to The Mozilla Foundation, of course.

#2 Re: Just bought a bag!

by flacco

Saturday September 20th, 2003 10:35 PM

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i'm enjoying a fine, hot mug of envirolizard right now!

they should have put out a straight 100% columbian brand called Joezilla.

#5 Re: Re: Just bought a bag!

by tseelee

Sunday September 21st, 2003 11:42 AM

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I wish more of those people who've contributed to this effort report their experience with the coffee. If it's good, it might entice more people to try.

(This from a non-coffee-drinking person. What I might be willing to try, but can't or don't want to afford, is $70/lb. tea. No one would want to ice it once they've tried it.)

#3 mozilla.org

by dave532

Sunday September 21st, 2003 4:55 AM

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It'd be nice to see them have a mention for a few days on the front page of mozilla.org because of the success of this scheme. There must be a few people who don't read mozillazine but look at mozilla.org

They'd get a bit more free advertising and mozilla foundation would get some more donations.

If this is a success, other companies might follow in the same ideas.

#4 Damn

by jedbro

Sunday September 21st, 2003 10:12 AM

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I really wish I owned a product based company that I could offer to the mozcommunity and share some % with the Moz Foundation! Kudos to RJ for doing this for us coffee/gecko lovers!

#6 Um ...

by Desmodromic

Sunday September 21st, 2003 1:17 PM

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$400?

Heh. Heh heh. Hahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...

#7 Re: Um ...

by Gunnar

Sunday September 21st, 2003 1:20 PM

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Well, it's better than $0 Dollars, wouldn't you agree?

#9 Re: Um ...

by FattMattP

Sunday September 21st, 2003 1:23 PM

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... As opposed to all that Desmodromic has contributed.

#10 now THAT is worth laughing about ;) [nt]

by joschi

Sunday September 21st, 2003 5:48 PM

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[nt]

#15 Re: Um ...

by bartdecrem

Monday September 22nd, 2003 10:20 AM

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This is a great initiative. Ron is donating half of his profits to Mozilla. It's a great model for other merchandisers who may be interested in supporting Mozilla.

I think all the contributions we get are important: - the $2 million from AOL allowed us to even have a foundation, and hire key people - hundreds of thousands of dollars from other corporations help us hire more core developers - $400 from Ron shows how businesses can support Mozilla - $10 and $20 donations from more than 500 individuals add up to real money and show how broad the support is for Mozilla.

#8 Intl. Orders?

by Gunnar

Sunday September 21st, 2003 1:22 PM

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How about international shipping? Is that posible?

#11 Great

by wvw

Monday September 22nd, 2003 12:07 AM

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That's nice. I'd be interested in international shipping too! I would love to meet this Desmodromic in person.

#12 $400 less profit for

by bugs4hj <bugs4hj@netscape.net>

Monday September 22nd, 2003 3:01 AM

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It is still $400 less profit for the RJ Tarpley's Coffee Company, so it is a great thing to do, but they got some new customers in return. All about marketing :D

#13 Re: $400 less profit for

by Gunnar

Monday September 22nd, 2003 3:30 AM

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I'd call that a win-win situation. If everyone profits from this, then all the better :-)

#14 the rest of the equation

by thegoldenear

Monday September 22nd, 2003 10:09 AM

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"If everyone profits from this, then all the better :-)"

there are more than two players in this. for everyone to profit you'd have to atleast include the coffee growers. I bet the coffees not Fair Trade ( <http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/> ) in which case the growers will be getting shafted. a fairer deal for them aswell as money to the Mozilla Foundation would be appropriate to this equation as their livelihood is more important than Mozilla's

#16 Reply

by Racer

Monday September 22nd, 2003 10:50 AM

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What are you talking about golden? Stop trolling with economically charged political rhetoric.

#17 fair

by jedbro

Monday September 22nd, 2003 12:36 PM

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While that may be a fair statment. 1) You niether seem sure about whether the coffee *is* fair trade or not. 2) We aren't here to discuss the economical situation for coffee growers. Important, hell yes it is. But more importantly for this thread is the money that is being given to Mozilla Foundation. \

#20 Re: fair

by mlefevre

Tuesday September 23rd, 2003 5:17 AM

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If the coffee is fair trade stuff, they should just say that and make everyone happy :)

If not, then that means buyers are supporting the exploitation of coffee growers for the benefit of the Mozilla foundation. All depends on your priorities, but it'd be better if you didn't have to choose one or the other.

#21 Re: fair

by joschi

Tuesday September 23rd, 2003 10:18 AM

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in the original thread where they announced their plans to do this a number of us mentoined that we'd be very very interested in this if the coffee was A) yummy, and B) fair trade. if not, many politically conscious people (which i bet is a high percentatge of moz fans) will just stick to their local fair trade coffee source.

#24 Re: the rest of the equation

by arielb

Wednesday September 24th, 2003 3:58 PM

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Enviro Lizard

This organic blend is specially made for Mozilla users who are concerned about the environment. Our Enviro Lizard beans feature a fine blend of organic coffees grown WITHOUT the use of pesticides, herbicides or chemical fertilizers. It is a little more expensive, but it saves the delicate ecosystem of coffee producing regions and yields a delicious and unique clean tasting coffee. --- ok so in other words you can hug a tree or a coffee grower but you can't hug both. Its a good thing I don't drink coffee...easier just to send a check to mozilla to avoid these hangups. sheesh!

#18 What I would really like to see "product"-wise

by Qeantk <shopping@timocracy.com>

Monday September 22nd, 2003 5:26 PM

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Is somebody (say the Mozilla foundation itself) offering hosting with the mozilla development tools (the ones they created, as well as the third party ones they use) and have the money go towards covering mozilla.org's equipment and bandwidth costs. In six months to a year I might be looking to be setting up cvs/bugzilla/bonsai/tinderbox on a box somewhere and while I could do that myself, I would rather my developers and I spent our time developing than worrying about what the latest stable release of x is and wether we should upgrade on top of the usual domain/network management issues. Hell if it were shared hosting I would consider it sooner, but as I said in 6-12 months I might be looking for a dedicated/managed environment.

If mozilla.org didn't want the headache of farming their boxen out then maybe try for getting rackspace or someone to offer the set-up with support from Mozilla staff in return for some of the profits.

Am I completely off my rocker here, or is this a stupid idea?

#19 Re: What I would really like to see "product"-wise

by mlefevre

Tuesday September 23rd, 2003 5:14 AM

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I'm not really seeing why this would be such a good thing. Mozilla.org is already using meer.net to host their stuff - if they hosted other people's stuff, they'd have to pay more for the hosting. To gain any benefit, they'd have to resell the hosting at a premium.

If you (or someone) would be prepared to pay Mozilla.org more than the going rate to host your stuff, why not save Mozilla.org staff the administration effort by paying at the regular price and giving them a donation. Or, more likely, host stuff at mozdev, who offer hosting for Mozilla projects for free, and accept donations.

With the coffee thing, someone else is doing all the work, and just getting a little promotion on Mozilla sites in exchange for the money. That's great, but I wouldn't want Mozilla.org to go into the business of reselling the coffee themselves - that just bumps up the overheads...

#22 Maybe it is a stupid idea.

by Qeantk <shopping@timocracy.com>

Tuesday September 23rd, 2003 6:53 PM

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The actual hosting wasn't really so much the concern as the bonsai/tinder-box/bugzilla. Since I am already about to start paying a linux geek friend a pittance to maintain a cvs server for my copnay (non-Mozilla related projects) and if things go well down the road I will want to the fuller range of tools on the box, it might be nice to have it just all taken care of in one package, which could happen to help subsidize Moz's cost.

Maybe it is a stupid idea, maybe I am the only one who would ever consider not running such an environment in their spare time, and maybe my compnay will crash and burn leaving zero people who would ever ever even contemplate using suc a service, but you know if they are making money off of coffee any brainstorm on how to bring in more based on products they have built.

#25 Re: What I would really like to see "product"-wise

by dew

Wednesday October 1st, 2003 6:57 PM

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I run the California Community Colocation Project, which, being a non-profit itself, offers free, donation-based colocation and virtual hosting to individuals, Open Source projects, and other non-profits. (We do not host any commercial servers or content.) We would be happy to host anyone's server who would like to do Mozilla development, or work with the Mozilla community to support a dedicated server offering the Mozilla development suite.

Our site is at <http://www.communitycolo.net/> and you can email me personally at david [AT] weekly [DOT] org if you are interested or have helpful suggestions about how we could best aid the Mozilla community.

#23 just ordered some

by auburn

Tuesday September 23rd, 2003 9:27 PM

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Just ordered some lazy lizard coffee. I would like to note that $400 already in the first two weeks is a pretty good amount. Think about 1/2 of the profit on 1 lb of coffee must be. I would imagine it isn't that much. Anyway, like some others have said this just shows that it is possible for a business to support mozilla. Nobody is saying that this project is going to make or break mozilla. However, it will help a lot and if others follow in the company's footsteps it will be good for the mozilla foundation. Nothing but praise for this company.