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MozillaZine is Five: 1998-2003

Monday September 1st, 2003

MozillaZine — 5 Years: 1998-2003 As you may have guessed from MozillaZine's retro look, today is our fifth anniversary! The site has come a lot further than any of us could imagine since 1998 and we would like to thank everyone who has supported us over the past half decade. We've prepared a special fifth anniversary section for you to browse over.

We've enjoyed being at the heart of the Mozilla community and look forward to making MozillaZine even better as we head into the future. We hope you'll join us.

MozillaZine — 5 Years: 1998-2003


#1 WOOOOOHOOOOO!

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Monday September 1st, 2003 6:56 PM

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MozillaZine rules. Go for another five!

#2 Anniversary Editon

by nilson <nilson@gmail.com>

Monday September 1st, 2003 7:05 PM

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I have made a special build of Firebird for this event - <http://forums.mozillazine…org/viewtopic.php?t=22660>

#3 YEAH!!!!

by nosebleed <nosebleed@myrealbox.com>

Monday September 1st, 2003 7:16 PM

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Nice work, everyone! Obviously this could not be down by the webmasters alone, a big thank you to all the users that contribute with technicla help and usefulness, good humor, and friendliness. Long live MZ!

#4 Congrats!

by jedbro

Monday September 1st, 2003 7:36 PM

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Congrats to Chris, jason, kerz, and Alex (am I missing anyone?) I remember back in 98, I think it was only chris, and I was pestering him to release the code he wrote for the talk-back ;) 5-years later, and I still don't think he has.. ;)

Congrats all of you, Mozilla is better than ever, and most of it is thanks to the community!

On a side note: Is this going to be the new "look" for mozillazine? If so will you provide a few other (less bright) alternatives? I like it, but a little bright for everyday use ;)

#14 Hip hip hourah!

by offmdan

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 4:48 AM

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It's been 5 years for me too! On the web that is. In our times that's almost like 50 huh!

All the best for another 50 (umm... 5 years!)

- - -

New colour can be fine for a day. Perhaps we could eventually have a choice of schemes like Farook.org's forum

#5 Re: version optimized for athlon

by Sho

Monday September 1st, 2003 8:52 PM

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Congratulations, guys. I visit MozillaZine on a daily basis for a very long time now, and I fully expect to do so over the next five years as well ;).

*clicks on PayPal button*

#6 Chris, Jason, and Alex - Thanks!

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Monday September 1st, 2003 9:22 PM

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You all kick ass!

--Asa

#7 New theme kicks ass

by flacco

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 1:10 AM

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very nice! is it permanent?

#8 Congratulations,come from CHINA.

by sunose

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 1:22 AM

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Wooooo.This is great.

#9 Go! Mozilla!

by minid <diego@cercleweb.com>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 1:44 AM

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Cheers everybody cheers...

I'm happy that we open source community can make celebrations and feel happy about our effort, to promote our ideas...

Happyness still can be found and technology and open source community.

Cheers everybody.

#10 Congrats

by filip <filip-ml@disque-monde.org>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 2:13 AM

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Congrats, happy birthday and all this sort of things!!!!

Philippe

#11 hi!

by arielb

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 2:54 AM

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Happy birthday mozillazine! I remember when it all started :) and while I haven't posted in a while I still use Mozilla/Firebird. Why wouldn't I? :)

#12 Congratulations

by odd <odd@findus.dhs.org>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 3:12 AM

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Congratulations :) I hope to keep reading for a few years more.

#13 what?

by sime

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 4:35 AM

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I still dont know what mozilla is.

#15 M.O.Z.I.L.L.A.

by offmdan

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 4:53 AM

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Most Operative Zapping Artistic Riggin' Internet Likeable Loveable ArtWork

#16 Well Done...

by janahan

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 5:33 AM

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I Have been reading this site since the very beginning.

Used nearly ever binary built. (even the aborted 5, and Raptor)..

Congrast to the admins, and kudos to all those like me, who for the last 5 years, had the belief Mozilla WILL succeed, despite the naysayers.

Doesnt it feel like you drank all the cream, when you see news sites praising Mozilla, calling it a success, when the same were critisizing it just two years ago.

JWZ, Andreesen, you left the party before it started.

#17 Retro look

by pbened <pbened@hotmail.com>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 6:31 AM

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Quite honestly, the retro look is cooler than today's look. It mixes quite well with Mozilla's home page too. Let's not change it back, I say!

#19 Welcome to free captialism.

by pkb351 <pbergsagel@shaw.ca>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 9:52 AM

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Red and orange IMHO should be used sparingly on the internet...to my tastes these colours make the site look amaturish and less professional. The "pastel shades" of green used are much better. The colours don't take front seat over the text, which is the most important aspect here.

Lokk at many popular sites set up by large companies on the internet, and unless they are aimed ata specific group such as 13-20 year olds as an example, are not designed with bright colours. Red and orange are birht colours.

Here are a few examples of what I mean:

<http://www.apple.com/>

<http://www.cnn.com/>

<http://www.time.com/time/>

<http://www.bbc.co.uk/>

<http://www.cbc.ca/newsworld/>

At these sites the colour doesn't take over the content. In my opinion, the red and orange colour theme seriously detracts from the content.

But this is simply my opinion. [Now if only the lizzard and bird could find a new colour. ;) ]

#18 Congrats!

by Hendikins

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 9:34 AM

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Congrats on 5 years! I've only been reading for 4 of them :)

#20 BTW My typo "birht" should be "bright"

by pkb351 <pbergsagel@shaw.ca>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 9:55 AM

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Ahem...cough....sputter

#21 Happy Birthday

by alvaro

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 10:34 AM

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Happy Birthday Mozillazine!!, thanks to all for the superb work.

#22 Congrats/comments on "MozillaZine is Five" article

by pkb351 <pbergsagel@shaw.ca>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 11:06 AM

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First: Congratulations on all the work that has gon into this site and all the news which has been dissemination by mozillaZine about the Mozilla project.

Now some of my comments about the <b>MozillaZine is Five</b> article.

<A Message From MozillaZine's Founder> <b>. . .one of the first sites to allow our content to be translated and repurposed for other audiences. The Creative Commons and the whole idea of Open Content is still relatively new on the scene, but MozillaZine was a pioneer in this regard. It shows what good things can happen when information is shared freely with trusted peers.</b>

Once again people working with Mozilla are helping to forge forward with what I believe was an early principle for internet. Many early internet pioneers believed that the internet should be a place for all and a place were information could be freely shared. Today this vison is under attack. Mozilla.org and MozillaZine are at the forefront of reversing this trend and returning the internet to its original vision. Kudos to all at Mozilla.

<b>. . .it's important that the Mozilla group start looking towards the future: new means of interaction in the browser interface and new technologies to bind us in our common human enterprise. And all this while defending a space for open, standards-compliant, language-independent, cross-platform browsing, pushing ahead to make sure that no one is denied access due to incompatible or proprietary technologies. Mozilla is doing more than competing — it is leading the way. With the advent of the Mozilla Foundation and the demise of Netscape, Mozilla has a chance to step out from the shadow of its biggest corporate contributor and chart a new course</b>

and

<b>We need a robust Internet, with well-supported standards, not proprietary, bug-ridden technologies with limited support and limited access to the developer. We need developers looking to expand access to all, not restrict it and stifle it.</b>

I believe these two quotes spell out many of the challenges ahead for Mozilla. (Although I am not as sure as the author that AOL will be out of the picture. I believe AOL will be there somewhere along this path, since they gained the right to use IE, but this agreement does not bind them to using IE exclusively)

More and more companies and individuals are beginning to realize the liability of using IE. People may see both Bill's and Steeve's mouth moving as they state <b>security is our number one priority</b>. In reality people are left with computers which are attacked, almost weekly, with viruses which cost businesses millions of dollars.

People (this includes those working in professional IT departments) are reading reviews of current browsers in mainstream publications as well as more technically specific publications. Mozilla consistently is shown to be one of the best browsers advailable and usually is ranked higher than IE.

I believe the next phase for Mozilla could be a strong marketing phase. Mozila.org could find ways to let potential users (corporate as well as individual) know the benifits of using Mozilla. Mozilla.org/Mozillazine could provide information to show people how easy it can be to roll out Mozilla in an corporate setting. I believe some of this marketing is already ongoing and can only get better as people and corporations search for an more secure browser and email solution to IE and its weekly virus attacks.

[BTW Can anyone tell me which "presidental hopeful" the author meant. I am clueless.]

<Chronology of Important Events> <very minor rant>As I read the chronology of important events a thought came to mind: <b>After five years there is still no fix for the Password Manager bug which keeps it for working correctly with forums such as mozillaZine. The password manager should not collect login names after one is provide by the user and the field <i>Title</i> should be left blank.</very minor rant>

Since I have been testing and reporting bugs for Mozilla since Milestone 5 (using a Mac) when the browser would explode if the user so much as sneezed, I guess I will be here when the "MozillaZine is Ten" report is posted. Good work and thanks to all who have assisted with this most worthwhile project. You have all helped to make Mozilla into what I believe is the best browser/mail and news reader out there.

<i>One final postscript</i> <b>We need a robust Internet, with well-supported standards, not proprietary, bug-ridden technologies with limited support and limited access to the developer. We need developers looking to expand access to all, not restrict it and stifle it.</b>

Maybe this vision will soon begin to come to realization because of events beyond Mozilla. The EU is about to bring a final verdict to its antitrust trial with Microsoft. If the EU gets it right and manages to restore competition, Mozilla will face the added challenge as to how to fit into this new competitive world. We must be ready for this challenge and not be a "work-in-progress" if and when it arrives.

#23 ¡Feliz cumpleaños!

by algarcianet

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 11:43 AM

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Happy Birthday to you, MozillaZine! :-)

#24 Congrats, but I miss the zeppelin

by rkfoster

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 12:14 PM

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Congrats on making it to 5 years. That's tough for any online zine. I hope you have many more years of articles, community, and service.

I like the new look, even the orange and red, but I do miss the grassy field and the zeppelin. A factory, though a good symbol for the work ahead, just doesn't have the panache of a zeppelin, in my opinion. I second the request for some sort of "theme" preferences for the website. That would be very cool. I'd really go for a grass green tee shirt with that zeppelin on it if I had the money. :)

Congrats again.

#25 Re: Congrats, but I miss the zeppelin

by jonik

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 12:30 PM

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For some reason, I think that the retro look is just a temporary thing...

But anyways, happy birthday to MozillaZine, clearly the best Mozilla news site out. :)

#26 Typo

by MXN

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 2:06 PM

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Not that this matters, but in the first paragraph of the "5 Years" page, there's a typo:

"A site devoted soley [sic] to Mozilla news and advocacy."

It should be "solely". Not that it matters...

So, like everyone else, I'd like to thank everyone who donated so much of their time to furthering this wonderful project.

#27 Congrats from Berlin.

by ercan

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 2:28 PM

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Congrats folks, happy Birthday to all of you/us and to this dangerous dinosaur called Mozilla. He is preparing to bite InternetExplorer's a**. ;-]

5 years of great work with great results. Thanks to the developers, who realy do a great job, and to all members of the community.

May God bless you all. *Cheers!*

</ercan>

#28 New Look

by redvine

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 2:38 PM

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I wish the Mozilla.org page was as pretty as either version of the Mozillazine.org home page. Personally, I prefer the blue and green version to the orange and red one, but whatever Mozillazine ends up with I hope Mozilla decides to use the other (or even goes back to its old design).

#29 Archive of origional site

by SomeGuy

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 5:19 PM

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After doing some Google searching for the origional URL that appears in the picture of the origional site, I found a URL that pulls it from archive.org: <http://web.archive.org/we…e/mozillaZine/index2.html>

Actually it kind of seems to be still accessable at <http://www5.localweb.com/…e/mozillaZine/index2.html> but the mime types are all wrong and the SQL has all broken.

Anyway, I just thought it was interesting.

#30 Your second URL crashes Mozilla!

by pkb351 <pbergsagel@shaw.ca>

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 5:29 PM

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Don't click on the second url posted by SomeGuy as it will craxsh Mozilla 1.5b. BTW I am using Moz on MacOS X 10.1.5.

#32 Re: Your second URL crashes Mozilla!

by SomeGuy

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 6:22 PM

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Sorry if it crashed on you. It worked on my thing-a-majig (recent windoze nightly). Actually I do recall recently seing some problem with mozilla (windows) crashing when opening an open/save dialog like that but grabbing a newer build fixed that. Dont know off hand if there was a bug # for that, perhaps it is related.

#31 Happy Birthday!

by tseelee

Tuesday September 2nd, 2003 5:29 PM

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Wow, 5 years. Not to spoil the party fun, but don't ya just want M$ to bundle over and die right now?