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'The Guardian' Recommends Mozilla Firebird/Thunderbird, Criticises Mozilla Development Decisions

Thursday July 10th, 2003

Ian Deeley and A Wood both wrote in to tell us that today's edition of The Guardian, the UK broadsheet newspaper, features a column by Jack Schofield that recommends Mozilla Firebird and Mozilla Thunderbird. The article states that "Mozilla's Firebird browser and Thunderbird standalone mail software could make Microsoft's offerings look very shabby indeed." The bulk of the rest of the feature critically examines Netscape's and mozilla.org's browser development decisions (it is particularly damning of the team's cross-platform aspirations) and discusses Microsoft's plans to abandon development of the standalone version of Internet Explorer. Readers of the print edition of The Guardian can find the column on page 22 of the Life/Online supplement.


#57 Re: You sure you talking about the right browser?

by rwc

Sunday July 13th, 2003 1:29 PM

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The following are a few URLs that won't print and/or print preview correctly, the first set prints only the first page of a multi-page document, the second set crashes the browser - both in Mozilla 1.4 and the latest nightly from the trunk.

Bug #122750 (opened 1/2002)

<http://www.jellybelly.com…lifornia_Factory_Tour.htm> <http://zone.msn.com/euchre/tips/euchmay2003.asp> <http://www.linux-works.com/html/_about_linux.html> <http://www.algonet.se/~staffann/developer/CAN.htm> <http://www.bundesbank.de/…/euro_muenzen.php?pf=true> <http://scaleplus.law.gov.…/html/ess/0/2002/topN.htm> <http://www.ausa.org/am2002.nsf/media> <http://www.linuxkramkiste.de/dhcp__dns.html> <http://www.fcg.com/webfil…ws/news_summary_02_08.asp> <http://www.uol.com.br/mac…is/bugzilla/example4.html>

bug #185357 (opened 12/2002) <http://mozilla.org/projects/ui/menus/shortcut/> (!) <http://www.marine.usm.edu/hydro/curric/req.htm> <http://www.kennyt.com/foo/flowers.xml> <http://www.microsoft.com/usa/offices/malvern.asp> <http://streefland.net/mozilla-print-crash.html> <http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/headout.thurs.html>

These are just *two* printing bugs. There are plenty more. I agree that an individual might not come across (or recognize as such) many Mozilla bugs while casually browsing. As the IT manager of a public library system serving more than 400,000 customers, I pushed last summer to install Mozilla on more than 400 PCs. So I guess I just hear about Mozilla's problems more often. When a customer asks why they can do something in IE at home but it doesn't work in Mozilla, you can't really say "Microsoft sucks" and then start to sing Revolution #9. Mozilla just *needs to work*. I like Mozilla and consider myself an evangelist, but if your "puppy" was still pooping on the floor after more than a year (e.g. Bug #122750), you'd probably complain about it too.