Mozilla 1.4 ReleasedMonday June 30th, 2003Mozilla 1.4 is now available for download! This release offers several enhancements over Mozilla 1.3.1, including NTLM authentication support (Windows only), bookmarks improvements, click-and-drag image and table resizing in Composer, smooth scrolling (disabled by default), junk mail improvements and proxy auto-config failover. See the new-look Mozilla 1.4 Release Notes for more information and grab a build from the mozilla1.4 directory on ftp.mozilla.org. The Mozilla 1.4 branch is intended to replace the 1.0 branch as a stable baseline for developers to build upon. It is the basis of today's Netscape 7.1 release. In future milestone cycles, changes will be made to both the Mozilla technology and the project's organisation, including a move towards the standalone Mozilla Firebird and Mozilla Thunderbird applications as the main focus of development. See the Mozilla Roadmap for more information. I'm looking forward to trying it out. Interesting that mozillaZine has an article about the release before mozilla.org :) "Interesting that mozillaZine has an article about the release before mozilla.org :)" Well, if you check new content into mozilla.org, it takes a while (an hour or so) to become publicly visible. That said, MozillaZine was pretty fast with the 1.4 and 7.1 articles but that's one of the benefits of having them prepared in advance. Alex If you are running 1.4 RC3 there's no point in upgrading since the releases are identical. Thanks CzarAndy, I was about to download it and you saved me a bunch of time. Seeing that I'm in the countryside. How do you know that for sure? mozilla-win32-1.4rc3-installer.exe E57174FC3004E913FFD253E28F47638A mozilla-win32-1.4-installer.exe 28CB37DFE56476FE0C5A74689CDC0063 The installers are not 100% the same. :) I've downloaded and installed 1.4 twice, and both times I've gotten this same error message: I'm running Win98 SE MOZILLA caused an invalid page fault in module XPCOM.DLL at 017f:610f0769. Registers: EAX=4d7a6f6d CS=017f EIP=610f0769 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0065f630 EBP=0065f654 ECX=007840b4 DS=0187 ESI=610f3b40 FS=340f EDX=317b0fff ES=0187 EDI=00792d80 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 00 3b c3 74 21 33 f6 80 38 00 74 1a 8b 4d 08 Stack dump: 00000000 80000000 00785b70 610f3b40 00784090 00000000 00000001 00784098 00000000 0065faa8 610d7a7e 00785b74 00784090 00792fa0 007902f0 610f6084 I forgot to mention - I uninstalled Mozilla before I reinstalled 1.4, so that shouldn't be the problem. Though I did install it in the old directory. But that's never been a problem before. :( Not the experience I was hoping for with 1.4. I've downloaded and installed 1.4 twice, and both times I've gotten this same error message: I'm running Win98 SE MOZILLA caused an invalid page fault in module XPCOM.DLL at 017f:610f0769. Registers: EAX=4d7a6f6d CS=017f EIP=610f0769 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0065f630 EBP=0065f654 ECX=007840b4 DS=0187 ESI=610f3b40 FS=340f EDX=317b0fff ES=0187 EDI=00792d80 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 00 3b c3 74 21 33 f6 80 38 00 74 1a 8b 4d 08 Stack dump: 00000000 80000000 00785b70 610f3b40 00784090 00000000 00000001 00784098 00000000 0065faa8 610d7a7e 00785b74 00784090 00792fa0 007902f0 610f6084 I guess you don't read release notes. "If you are experiencing crashes on startup in xpcom.dll it is very likely that there is an incompatibility with some third-party extension. To work around this problem, uninstall your previous version of Mozilla, and completely delete the Mozilla install directory before performing the new install. You will not lose your profile data (such as bookmarks, preferences and cookies) but any third party extensions and plugins may be lost." Uups. Yeah, I should have read the release notes. However, release notes or not, it doesn't look very good when programs crash upon installation. I'm a dedicated Mozilla user, so I'll try to figure out the problem whenever one arises. But for many people, if such a thing happened they would simply think "Oh well. Mozilla's a pain in the ass. Back to IE I go." That's bad. I agree 100% lazytiger. A program that crashes for any reason during install is very bad for its image...even if the explanation is given in the release notes. Especially for a known issue like this, the installer should check to see if incorrect files from an older install are present and notify the user or delete them automatically before going ahead and crashing. At the very least, a general purpose check for a previous install of Mozilla should be made upon install; with a warning message if it is found. That would take maybe 10 minutes to code but could save lots of people from headaches and the assumption that Mozilla sucks. The installer should perhaps do what Apple does--present the release notes during install, but also exit gracefully if there is a problem. That would be the quick fix. Crashing and relnoting it is not the optimal solution, although we should read the bug before complaining. although let me say this: anybody that does not think that extensions of any kind to any program or operating system may not cause problems when upgrading are deluding themselves. I have never upgraded a Mac operating system (7.x-8.x-9.x-X) without some extension conflict, with the exception of 9. Sam Very very Stable, fast, and bug-free, but not as light and customizable as the seperate applications (Firebird, etc.). BTW, Am I the only one having trouble getting into the forums? It just keeps hanging when I try to go in? That's been happening alot lately. Maybe server problems? It is NOT bug free. Moreover it has some new bugs in addition to such "veterans" as opened dropdown from the URL bar does not close on the second click and in some sites a dropdown selection is invisible. I'm loving this. No problems at all and the speed is fantastic! I was glad to see some clarification that Composer (as well as the other modules) was not going away. It would be a shame to lose such a nice utility after all the good work that's gone into it. I haven't crashed. And I did it all over the place with RC2. And that's an improvement :) I can't seem to find any Linux RPMs for the GTK2/Xft builds. The old 1.3 builds are here http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.3/Red_Hat_8x_RPMS/gtk2/i386/ , but the 1.3.1 and 1.4 directories don't have them. Anybody know where to get them? Xft builds are not made by default, due to certain problems with Xft, and due to its not being available on all linux systems. we should just wait it out with rc3 ... someone will make one and it will go into /contrib. Looks like they are available now: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.4/contributed/Red_Hat_8x_RPMS/gtk2/RPMS/i386/ I can't seem to find any Linux RPMs for the GTK2/Xft builds. The old 1.3 builds are here http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.3/Red_Hat_8x_RPMS/gtk2/i386/ , but the 1.3.1 and 1.4 directories don't have them. Anybody know where to get them? I immediately downloaded the 1.4! Better and faster than all 1.4rcX! But what features will be present in 1.5? better and faster than 1.4RC3? that's impressive, given that it's identical. :) as to what features will be in 1.5, we'll know that in a couple of months. so far the main changes since the 1.4 branch have been code improvements, so current nightlies are even faster than 1.4. I have just downloaded 1.4 but have a problem with java plugin. I have made a system wide installation using the scipt from http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.4/installation.html#linux, and tried installing java using the guide from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/manual_install_linux.html However, this results in mozilla not wanting to start. I run Linux (mandrake 9.1 standard setup and I had uninstalled my old mozilla including hidden directories and more, so this should not be the problem). I hope you got any suggestions. Else good work Regards Kim What version of Java and distribution of Mozilla are you using? If you are using the standard binary release and a Java version prior to 1.4.2, it won't work. See this note, copied from the release notes: The Linux binaries distributed by mozilla.org are now compiled with GCC 3.2. If you're using these binaries then you will need the 3.2 version of the Java Plugin from Sun J2SE v 1.4.2 (or the Blackdown JDK 1.4.1 compiled with GCC 3.2.) The Sun Java Plugin is compatible with modern Linux versions like Red Hat 8 or later and SuSE 8.1 or later (the plugin depends on a newer version of libgcc_s.so, installing the GCC supplements for Red Hat 7.3 -GCC 3.1 Compiler Suite for Red Hat Linux 7.3 - may allow for some older Red Hat Linux to run the plugin) Users of older Linux versions should either install the egcs 1.1.2 build of Mozilla and the JRE 1.4.1 or wait for a Mozilla version compiled specifically for their Linux distribution. I'm trying to install the two extensions I use (optimoz and multizilla) but it seems mozdev.org is down. Is it, or is it a problem at my end? It's also down here. PS: the Java plugin problem I have written about is not solved. It also, almost naturally, exists in netscape It's also down here. PS: the Java plugin problem I have written about is not solved. It also, almost naturally, exists in netscape I keep hoping later releases of Mozilla will take care of, or at least reduce, its abuse of my 98SE "resources". I realize later Winduds versions don't have the problem, but I have to keep a close eye on my resource meter, or the System and GDI resources are likely to drop below 10% and lock up my system. Having 4 or 5 windows or tabs open seems to be the limit, and even just leaving them open for a while gradually drops the count down to danger levels. I didn't have this problem with early versions of Mozilla, with Netscape, or with IE or Opera. I can only confirm this :-( Does anyone know which bugs to monitor i bugzilla to see when this gets fixed? I cannot recommend 1.4 for Win98 users. It should have been "Win98 ressources"... The Password Manager doesn't work well with the "forums" at www.mozillazine.org. Couldn't the "forums" be changed to use a seperate login page and an autologin feature? That should solve the problem I think. Not the first time I'm reusing an old headline, and after correcting it I have to choose between two usernames each time I enter a new page on the site :-/ The Password Manager doesn't work well with the "forums" at www.mozillazine.org. Couldn't the "forums" be changed to use a seperate login page and an autologin feature? That should solve the problem I think. Not the first time I'm reusing an old headline, and after correcting it I have to choose between two usernames each time I enter a new page on the site :-/ just installed it on my winXP box over 1.3, crashes on startup. re-installing 1.3 gives me a functional installation. sorry that i didn't try any of the RC builds, have been busy lately... Never install over an old version. Uninstall it and reinstall. Don't worry, you won't lose your email and bookmarks and stuff. Why do I get porn sites popping up when I start mozilla mail??? This is the latest url to pop up [http://www.djtozz.ws/] I do not remember agreeing to this is the EULA. about every 5th time I start the mail I get a porn pop up. Why do I get porn sites popping up when I start mozilla mail??? This is the latest url to pop up [http://www.djtozz.ws/] I do not remember agreeing to this is the EULA. about every 5th time I start the mail I get a porn pop up. Why do I get porn sites popping up when I start mozilla mail??? This is the latest url to pop up [http://www.djtozz.ws/] I do not remember agreeing to this is the EULA. about every 5th time I start the mail I get a porn pop up. Thi site is screwy. All I did was hit refresh and it reposted my message. This is the link in the title bar http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=3346 why would it keep posting something I did not type again, like the cache or history is locked up. How did it remember my login and password??? "Thi site is screwy. All I did was hit refresh and it reposted my message. This is the link in the title bar http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=3346 "why would it keep posting something I did not type again, like the cache or history is locked up. How did it remember my login and password???" If you reload a page that's generated as the result of a form submission, the form gets resubmitted. Alex You may have spyware on your PC. Get Spy Bot: http://security.kolla.de/ update its files and scan your PC. inaddition to that use AdAware http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ Trying to install Mozilla Calendar by clickin on the Install link. Instead of bringing the Install dialog it opens the installation routine in the Browser. 1.4 is killing me. Twice today I've gotten GPFs caused by Mozilla, completely freezing my system and forcing me to hit the button on the case to restart. Talkback is installed, but it doesn't catch these GPFs. Here's a sample error message: MOZILLA caused a general protection fault in module NVDISP.DRV at 0001:0000c50a. Registers: EAX=00000401 CS=03a7 EIP=0000c50a EFLGS=00010212 EBX=000002d2 SS=37e7 ESP=e0677f7e EBP=00007faa ECX=00000401 DS=00fe ESI=fefe00fe FS=1fa6 EDX=0000001c ES=eab7 EDI=00000038 GS=adc7 Bytes at CS:EIP: f3 a5 03 f2 4b 75 f7 66 8c c0 66 8e d8 2b f6 2b Stack dump: 0001adc7 00c7eab7 00000084 00000000 0000b706 0000c3e3 002d7a40 0000959a 00008006 00003546 b7060647 00007fd0 04d74d8a 1fa60000 00000000 b7060000 I don't see anything about NVDISP.DRV in the release notes. I thought it might be a known bug with the video driver, but it turns out that's for ATI drivers and my computer has an NVidia adapter. I did a search on Bugzilla, but couldn't find anything. I don't know what the hell my problem with Bugzilla is, but I've tried searching for keywords that I KNOW exist, and the results come up as "Zarro Boogs". I'll log in and search for all the bugs have been filed by me (which is only a handful) and again I get "Zarro Boogs". Am I cursed? Has Bugzilla been reset somehow? Ah... Now I remember what I forgot to mention - I'm on a Win98 SE machine. Yeah, it sucks balls, but I don't have any choice. I'm at work. Try updating your video driver or altering resolution, bit depth "Updated" being relative... the newest driver available from the manufacturer (Micron) was from 8/8/2000. I really shouldn't mess with it anymore since this is not my computer. (work) I don't know what's up with Mozilla causing the nvdisp.drv GPFs, but I installed Thunderbird and Firebird also and they all do it. And when any one of the three dies, all three die. Then, even though the computer functions more or less normally after that (besides the fact that Mozilla & the 'Birds won't start), it hangs during reboot. I'll have to see if the "new" driver makes any difference. My guess is it won't. If that's the case, I'll file a bug. This is a very problematic bug, though I imagine not too many people out there are running the same adapter/driver combo as I am. I used to have problems with Mozilla under Win2K. It was the only app that would cause a BSOD on my machine. Guess what? In the nVidia drivers. It's been fine since I reinstalled, but that's not much consolation. Mozilla was doing something bad as nothing else brought my system down. I couldn't even leave it running for four hours before I started seeing redraw problems in Mozilla and then other apps... shortly followed by BSOD (quite as I shut down Mozilla). When was your system last rebuilt? I was impressed that my Win2K system hadn't been rebuilt in 3 years, which is quite exceptional for Windows. As yours is Win98, I would recommend rebuilding if it hasn't been done within the last year. It could very well fix your problems. I'm actually a little OCD when it comes to keeping my computer up-to-date and clean as a whistle. However, I can do that at home... I can't at work. My computer here is 98 SE and I guarantee it's never been wiped and reinstalled since it was purchased over 3 years ago (that was before I started working here). I'd even be willing to put in my own time to upgrade to W2K and reinstall everything (or just reinstall 98, though that wouldn't be much fun). But I can't do that without the IS guy's help/permission and he's not even located in this city (I work at a satellite office). Anyway, this isn't really the proper place to rant about such non-mozilla-specific things. I just wanted to say that I'm in total agreement that rebuilding the system would solve virtually every problem this computer has. I just wish that was an option. I downloaded the newest drivers from nVidia (with the "Unified Driver Architecture" - what the hell kind of feature is that? One big monolithic 18 meg piece of shit that they make everyone download instead of just the proper driver for only 1-3 megs.) and my system seems to be doing better now. But I'll have to wait and see if it's still OK after a day's use. I have Mozilla open virtually all 9 hours a day that I'm here, along with other resource-hogging apps like Illustrator, FreeHand, PageMaker, etc., and I've sometimes had repainting problems with Mozilla after a few hours of use. But it really is testament to Mozilla's stability that that's about the extent of the problems I've had with it. Maybe even that problem will be fixed now that I've updated the video drivers. Maybe something about having the newest nVidia drivers should be included in the release notes. ...even with the updated video drivers. That really sucks. I don't know what I'm going to do. Mozilla just keeps crapping out on me. I never had any problems like this before 1.4... maybe I'll try going back to 1.3.1. But would that make a difference now? Help! Every time I'm forced to use IE, I can't believe what a piece of crap it is! I gotta get Mozilla working again! But I can't reformat my computer, as I explained before. I keep it as tip-top as I can with Norton Utilities. Uninstall all of the "non-company standard" software and reboot. If Win98 dies, then it dies. Don't sweat it, it belongs to the company not you. Sometimes you just have to look your boss in the eye and tell him, "hey, what matters to the bottom line here? The cost of my salary while I wait for YOU to make sure I can get my job done or a couple of hundred dollars to make sure that I don't waste more time being non-productive? -- I can only be as productive an employee as YOU will let me be. I want to be more productive, just give me the ability." If your manager won't help you, let him know that you are indeed being as productive as he will allow. Then don't try to be any more productive than that. I'm not advocating slacking off, but your manager has a job too and you sometimes have to let them know what your needs and expectations are. If your manager gives you what you want, then be more productive. I have more toys than anyone in my workgroup: because I earn them and use them and my management knows it. I wonder why these problems did not came up earlier. NVidia had changed the behaviour of is drivers since some time (41.09 is faulty too) It now uses parts of the ms-direct-draw-mechanism, which will not work and criple down the system. for example you will find the ddhelp.exe running even if not started from any application. check it out. solution: I do not know, may be go back with driverversion. I guess, more problems related to this will come, with no solution. Martin Can't wait for development to switch over to Firebird/Thunderbird. The future of Mozilla is just around the corner! Me too, can't wait for Mozilla 1.5 :-) MozillaFirebird 0.6 is really great, can't wait to start calling it MozillaBrowser. Is there a reason for the Flash plug-in don´t be pre-installed with Mozilla? []s Fabiano Guilherme de Souza I have been using netscape and mozilla for years and years and that dumb talk back agent has never worked. FIrewall or no firewall it never send the collected .dlls they just site in que. Why do I even bother. If mozilla can not even keep there talk back server up more than a few hours a day Im just gonna shut that stupid thing off. This is why we are still in testing, 90% of the problems never get back to the right people. I've had the same trouble with the talkback agent. I don't know if the proxy settings need to be changed or how to change them. I use BellSouth dial-up, and I don't think they use a proxy. Some Incedents go through, but there seems to always be one stuck in the top of the queue. BTW, I've had this problem with FF 1.0 and Mozilla 1.7.1 - 1.8a.6 Thanks G33K Why mozilla-1.4-0.7.3.i386.rpm itself alone is 34MB in size? Is everything all right? I'll expect it to be around 10MB-12MB ... RC 2 was rock solid for me. RC3 and 1.4 final are buggy and crash often for no reason on win2k pro sp3. Glad someone finally got the talkback server fixed. But RC2 was the best 4 me. hi i downloaded three times the 1.5b and nightly releases and when doubleclicking the installation file, i got an error message that the file xpcom.xpi is corrupted. any ideas?! MSS Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 |