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Controversial Puretunes Music Service Utilises Mozilla

Saturday May 31st, 2003

Tony Tovar wrote in to tell us that Puretunes, the controversial new Spanish music download service, uses Mozilla technology in its download application. The license agreement for the Puretunes MP3 Downloader (currently only available for Windows, though Linux and Mac versions are promised) states that the program "uses an unmodified copy of Mozilla internally" and quotes the entire text of the Mozilla Public License 1.1. The software, which also makes use of the Qt application framework, appears to contain an embedded version of Mozilla 1.2.1, with the version we downloaded having a user-agent string of "PureTunes 1.0 [Mon May 26 17:25:46 2003] - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130". It has a browser-style interface and supports Mozilla features such as Find As You Type.

Puretunes, which launched last week, is a subscription-based digital music service that offers unlimited downloads of songs by major artists. An eight hour subscription costs $3.99 with longer periods of time and a 25 song free trial also available. All music files are in the DRM-free MP3 format and there are no restrictions on playing, copying or burning to CD. The service is controversial because it does not have the authorisation of the major record labels; Puretunes claims that its deals with the Sociedad General de Autores y Editores (Spanish Association of Authors and Editors) and the Asociacion de Artistas, Interpretes y Ejecutantes (Association of Artists, Performers and Players) are sufficient under Spanish law. The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry disagrees. Reuters has an article about the controversy.


#1 Screenshots?

by minh

Saturday May 31st, 2003 6:31 PM

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see subject

#2 Re: Screenshots?

by astrosmash

Saturday May 31st, 2003 11:19 PM

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Screen Shot: <http://www.engr.uvic.ca/~…one/images/pure-tunes.png>

The client is actually nothing more than a handicapped web browser with a download manager. You can navigate to <http://client.puretunes.com/client/index.php/> using any old web browser and it works just the same.

#9 Could it be any more ugly? (nt)

by googolplex

Monday June 2nd, 2003 12:56 PM

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Could it be any more ugly?

#3 Some tips

by kauff

Sunday June 1st, 2003 5:21 AM

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#1: Spanish SGAE ~= RIAA #2: Asociación de Artistas... is some kind of weaker SGAE. #3: Living in Spain, this is the first time I hear of them [Puretunes]...

#4 Articles vanishing from front page

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Sunday June 1st, 2003 1:29 PM

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Sorry, we lost this article for a while. Our hosts had a disk problem and had to restore from a backup, meaning we lost some of the recent site stuff (but not the database, as that's on another disk). It also caused the site to be really slow or unavailable for a couple of hours.

Alex

#5 Cool

by mesostinky

Sunday June 1st, 2003 2:04 PM

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But what are the chances that once this site gets closed down that the record industry won't go after every single user who ever downloaded from them? I mean you can't buy unlimited cd's from a scalper on a street corner for $24 a month so you can't download unlimited song from purtunes who is illegally selling songs.

My advice is to use the 25 song free download from behind a proxy with fake info and then move on. Oherwise you might end up on the hitlist for those jacka**es at the RIAA.

#6 Re: Cool

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Sunday June 1st, 2003 4:04 PM

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"But what are the chances that once this site gets closed down that the record industry won't go after every single user who ever downloaded from them?"

It might not be closed down. WebListen.com has been running for several years under similar circumstances. I don't think the users would be liable. If you buy something from a shop that sells stolen goods, you can't be charged (unless you knew the goods were stolen).

"I mean you can't buy unlimited cd's from a scalper on a street corner for $24 a month so you can't download unlimited song from purtunes who is illegally selling songs."

With the former, you know that it's illegal. With the latter, it's certainly debateable.

Alex

#7 Re: Cool

by GAThrawn

Monday June 2nd, 2003 1:47 AM

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"Oherwise you might end up on the hitlist for those jacka**es at the RIAA."

What have the RIAA got to do with it? In case you didn't realise, the last "A" there stands for America, and Spain's equivalent of the RIAA are the organisation quoted in the Reuters article as allowing this.

Of course if you're an American downloading files from the Spanish service, then I suppose the RIAA might have some ground to have at look at your dealings, but only in the same way as they wouldn't like you buying import CDs over the internet. Again import CDs are perfectly legal in the country they're initially sold in but you'll find that the deals and distribution licenses that most music companies use to carve up the globe between their different divisions means that they don't like you importing CDs from another country.

Of course your final protection is our European data protection laws, which offer far more protection to the consumer's privacy than anything similar in America. This mean that without a legal warrant that is enforcable within the EU it would be illegal for Puretunes to export any list of IP addresses, host names, user identies, songs bought etc to the US at all.

#8 George, Ringo & Paul

by GAThrawn

Monday June 2nd, 2003 1:51 AM

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> "It's like saying I have permission from Ringo, George and Paul, therefore, I can start printing records. No they can't," he added.

Does anyone else think that that sentence really shows the root of the whole problem with record company's arrogance.

Essentially, just because you've got permission from the people who wrote, performed and (I'm fairly sure this is true in the Beatles case) own the copyright on the actual music (but not the individual performances), then I can't record them and publish that?

#10 Re: George, Ringo & Paul

by rilister

Monday June 2nd, 2003 1:59 PM

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off all people, Michael Jackson owns the copyright on most of the Beatles records! He outbid Paul McCartney when ATV was selling the rights back in 1984

This article gives the full skinny, along with what certain ownership rights mean.... <http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/jackson.htm>

#11 Not quite true

by djg

Tuesday June 3rd, 2003 2:58 PM

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MJ sold some of them back to Sony to make up for flagging album sales