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Full Article Attached Open XUL Alliance Site Goes Live

Sunday May 25th, 2003

Gerald Bauer writes in with news that the Open XUL Alliance site has launched. The site aims promote XUL and encourage interoperability with a collection of XUL news articles, mailing lists and links.


#88 The Munich Revolution - 14.000 Linux Desktops

by geraldb

Sunday June 1st, 2003 12:08 PM

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Here is slightly off-topic post to help you get the story together and why XUL is so important.

As I see it the browser war is over and now the desktop war is on. Just recently, for example, the Munich city council decided to move 14.000 desktops from Windows to Linux, see the write-up off the story in CNET @ <http://news.com.com/2100-…_3-1010740.html?tag=cd_mh>

So where does XUL come into the picture? HTML is the markup for browsers and XUL is the markup for desktops.

Unfortunately, the W3C leadership doesn't get it. To quote from Tim Bray's weblog:

<quote>The Browser Still Matters. Finally, there was a thread that said that the notion of running everything through the browser was broken anyhow, and what we really needed was something like WinForms, that would give the developer fine layout controls and richer UI apparatus like they used to have back in the days of Visual Basic.

This is another example of people Not Getting It. Why do you think the users turned away from VB to the browser? Because they by and large didnít like what the VB programmers of the world did with those fine layout controls and rich UI apparatus. I can remember like yesterday a Content Management conference about 1997, a woman from a big computer company talking about how great it was when they switched their CM system over from custom clients to the browser: ďItís so great! The browser is so limited, so they had to throw away three-quarters of the buttons and sliders and pulldowns and options, and just do it with hyperlinks and simple forms... it was so much easier to use!Ē

For heavy authoring and graphics and so on, you need a native application. But a huge majority of business data processing is you interacting with a database off on a server somewhere, and as far as I can see, a Web Browser is still the best way to do that. WinForms? Pshaw! </quote>

Heard about XUL, Tim? I guess not too busy with the semantic web and RDF. Welcome to the XUL revolution.