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OEone HomeBase ANYWHERE Now Includes Server-Side Spam Filtering

Tuesday May 20th, 2003

Mike Potter writes: "OEone has updated its online HomeBase ANYWHERE service, to include the most requested feature after our last release: server side spam filtering. When combined with Mozilla's client side spam filtering, this means practically no spam for end users. As well, this new version brings with it improved address book performance, improved bookmarks and other small changes. Mozilla users who would like an easy way to setup OEone HomeBase, which includes an IMAP email account, LDAP access to your contacts and a WebDAV server to publish Mozilla Calendar files and Mozilla Composer files, can install the XPI that I wrote, after going to OEone's site to register."


#1 Linux only, right?

by bmacfarland

Tuesday May 20th, 2003 4:29 PM

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OEone is for Linux users only, right? I've been tempted to play with it in the past, but the Linux requirement has always been a barrier to me.

#3 Re: Linux only, right?

by danp

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 4:43 AM

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No, the Homebase Anywhere service is available for anyone on any platform that can run a current browser (Mozilla renders everything really nicely). Since the service is based on servers that support open standards there are many native clients for most operating systems that can be used along with the web interface.

#2 interesting alternative to .Mac

by RamDam

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 2:44 AM

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Hum,

Some features provided by this service are listed among the most requested feature by .Mac Service subscribers.

On september, when I'll have to renew my .Mac for US$100 I'll think twice and will check this alternative again.

Thanks to Mozilla, OEOne Homebase has also the potential to be truly cross-platform, but the Calendar module still doesn't work on my mac.

Another interesting feature to implement could be Server-side IMAP Mail filtering (with SIEVE for example) If we have our mail directories and contents, addresbook on server side, why are we needed to store filters on client-side ?

Of course, this feature should be implemented in Mozilla first. May be it's worth a bug report

#4 Needs @MyDomain.com e-mail

by peterlairo <Peter@Lairo.com>

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 6:38 AM

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The service sounds intersting, but lacks a few features that are essential for me:

1. e-mail address should be <whoever@MyDomain.com> (e.g., <Peter@Lairo.com>)

2. Need multiple "users" for @MyDomain.com (e.g., <MyWife@Lairo.com>, etc.). Needs a more detailed pricing model.

3. Main user should receive ALL e-mails addressed to <*RandomText*@MyDomain.com> (anything that is not one of the "users").

4. Webpage should be <http://www.MyDomain.com>

5. The price is not clear whether it is per month or per year (i'm "pretty sure" it's per year, but clarity is important here).

#5 Re: Needs @MyDomain.com e-mail

by mikeypotter <mikep@oeone.com>

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 7:10 AM

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The first 4 suggestions are excellent, and something that has been mentioned elsewhere as well. We'll be looking into this at some point in the near future. The price is indeed per year, not per month. We think its an excellent value. Mike

#6 Re: Needs @MyDomain.com e-mail

by peterlairo <Peter@Lairo.com>

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 7:46 AM

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Well, I'd be very interested to hear when you've implemented the first 4 suggestions. :-)

> The price is indeed per year, not per month.

This should be clearly reflected on your webpage. ;-)

BTW. The navigation at <http://homebase.oeone.net/> and <https://homebase.oeone.net/homebase/account> lacks a "home" link or, even better, a navigation menu.

#7 Re: Re: Needs @MyDomain.com e-mail

by stealthman

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 8:14 AM

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I checked, and I think it is pretty clear on the sign-up page ( <https://homebase.oeone.net/homebase/account> ) since the paid option says "1-year subscription" and "One year subscription":

OEone HomeBase ANYWHERE 1-year subscription # 100MB internet file storage # One year subscription # @oeone.net email address # Your own internet suite: Personal portal, calendar, File Manager and more # Only $35.95 US, or $47.95 Canadian plus tax for orders within Canada

Is there another spot where it isn't clear? We will happily fix it if so. :)

Thanks, Jesse

#8 Re: Re: Needs @MyDomain.com e-mail

by peterlairo <Peter@Lairo.com>

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 8:37 AM

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I agree that it is "pretty clear", but when talking about money, I would prefer it to be absolutely clear. ;-)

All you would need to do is add "/yr" (i.e., USD 35.95/yr) and you're good to go.

#15 Suggestion 3

by tpederzani

Friday May 23rd, 2003 9:02 AM

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Wouldn't your suggestion #3 lead to /more/ spam? For instance, if your domain ever were dictionary attacked, you'd either get plenty of spam from that, or from other sources when all those "valid" email addresses got sold onto the lists of others.

I imagine that you either want to create temporary throw away accounts, or to catch misspellings of your mail addresses... Perhaps there are better ways to accomplish both or either.

For a mail admin, RCPT time verification of local accounts is very useful in fighting spam; your suggestion would eliminate that. (As well as making your site useless for those who practice callout verification [where a mail server will try to send mail from <> to your account to see whether you accept bounces or not, and to verify the existence of a given email address]).

#9 Forgive my ignorance ..

by drosoph

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 11:03 AM

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But does LDAP access to my address book also mean that I can setup the Address Book through Mozilla and SAVE contac ts to it DIRECTLY from within Mozilla or do I have to use some snazzy web interface ???

#13 Re: Forgive my ignorance ..

by danp

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 2:42 PM

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The Mozilla address book does not allow entering contacts into an LDAP directory. It has been developed to do read-only operations on the LDAP server.

#14 Writing to LDAP AB

by peterlairo <Peter@Lairo.com>

Thursday May 22nd, 2003 2:39 AM

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That would seem to severly limit the usefulness of an LDAP AB for non-corporate users, who would need to maintain a separate local AB and periodically upload the AB to the server. Kinda defeats the purpose of an always synchronized AB a bit. :-(

#10 Forgive my ignorance ..

by drosoph

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 11:26 AM

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But does LDAP access to my address book also mean that I can setup the Address Book through Mozilla and SAVE contac ts to it DIRECTLY from within Mozilla or do I have to use some snazzy web interface ???

#11 Forgive my ignorance ..

by drosoph

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 11:36 AM

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But does LDAP access to my address book also mean that I can setup the Address Book through Mozilla and SAVE contac ts to it DIRECTLY from within Mozilla or do I have to use some snazzy web interface ???

#12 WHOA

by drosoph

Wednesday May 21st, 2003 11:38 AM

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I hit reload on the page <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=3192> and it posted my response again .. and again ... Hmmm, do I blame the browser ? :)