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Full Article Attached Christopher Blizzard of mozilla.org Speaks on the Firebird Naming Conflict

Wednesday May 14th, 2003

Last week, CNET News.com published another report on the Firebird naming conflict. Claiming that the application of the Mozilla branding guidelines is tantamount to a back down on the part of mozilla.org, the article credits Jonathan Walther with resolving the disagreement. Walther was asked to mediate by Ann Harrison, one of the administrators of the Firebird database project. The article also reiterates the database project's claims of legal righteousness, which have since been challenged by Mitchell Baker. The open-source advocacy magazine Open has also printed an article about the dispute, featuring interviews with Harrison and Walther. The piece appears to fully support the position of the Firebird database project and lavishes praise on Walther. Neither article contains any statements from mozilla.org.

More recently, the Australian LinuxWorld also awarded victory to the Firebird database project. While the article is decidedly in favour of the database group, it does at least quote sixteen words from mozilla.org's Christopher Blizzard (compared to 478 from representatives of the Firebird database community). The report makes several bizzare statements (including a claim that MozillaZine is run by Asa Dotzler), mentions an open letter allegedly sent by Walther to Harrison and MozillaZine (we've never seen it) and finishes off with an advert for the next week's Firebird database conference. It looks like you'll have to go to sites like MozillaNews if you want to read any remotely pro-Mozilla coverage. Thanks to everyone who sent us links to articles.

We at MozillaZine weren't satisfied with the rather one-sided reporting from the mainstream tech news sites, so we got in touch with mozilla.org to find out their real position. As a result, we're pleased to present an exclusive interview with Christopher Blizzard, the Red Hat employee and mozilla.org staff member who authored the Mozilla branding guidelines.

Update! LWN.net have a report on the interview. The first reader comment on their article is from Jonathan Walther. It makes it very clear where he stands on the issue.


#65 Re: For those of you who haven't been paying atten

by jgraham

Friday May 16th, 2003 7:54 AM

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"Any more questions?"

Yes. But I'm not flaming, so your promise doesn't oblige you to respond.

Why do you need to keep going through what has happened? Regardless of what you think, the situation appears to have settled down quite substantially. We will have Mozilla Browser and Mozilla Mail. Those will be the names people will see, those will be the names in bugzilla and those will be the names on sites. People will probably refer to it as Mozilla Browser (Firebird) for a while to distinguish it from Mozilla Seamonkey Browser. FirebirdSQL will have their database called Firebird or whatever other name they choose to give it. Since that is all clear, what benefits do you think repeating old and tired arguments brings? Do you still believe that an acceptable agreement (or at least stalemate) has not been reached? Can you give me a compelling reason for keeping arguing? Do you believe that only Mozilla has been harmed by this storm, or do you believe that both sides have taken some damage because of their handling of the matter?

Additionally: Do you believe that weight is added to your points by using unneccessary capitalisation of select words?*

*My answer to this is 'no'. It just makes you look angry and unreasonable. My experince is also that angry and unreasoanble people are best ignored because trying to argue logically with them is impossible and has little or no benefit (not that I wish to argue with you in this case, nor would I has you presented your post differently). I'm interested to know whether everyone has the same view on this that I do or if people think about such things at all.