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Full Article Attached Christopher Blizzard of mozilla.org Speaks on the Firebird Naming Conflict

Wednesday May 14th, 2003

Last week, CNET News.com published another report on the Firebird naming conflict. Claiming that the application of the Mozilla branding guidelines is tantamount to a back down on the part of mozilla.org, the article credits Jonathan Walther with resolving the disagreement. Walther was asked to mediate by Ann Harrison, one of the administrators of the Firebird database project. The article also reiterates the database project's claims of legal righteousness, which have since been challenged by Mitchell Baker. The open-source advocacy magazine Open has also printed an article about the dispute, featuring interviews with Harrison and Walther. The piece appears to fully support the position of the Firebird database project and lavishes praise on Walther. Neither article contains any statements from mozilla.org.

More recently, the Australian LinuxWorld also awarded victory to the Firebird database project. While the article is decidedly in favour of the database group, it does at least quote sixteen words from mozilla.org's Christopher Blizzard (compared to 478 from representatives of the Firebird database community). The report makes several bizzare statements (including a claim that MozillaZine is run by Asa Dotzler), mentions an open letter allegedly sent by Walther to Harrison and MozillaZine (we've never seen it) and finishes off with an advert for the next week's Firebird database conference. It looks like you'll have to go to sites like MozillaNews if you want to read any remotely pro-Mozilla coverage. Thanks to everyone who sent us links to articles.

We at MozillaZine weren't satisfied with the rather one-sided reporting from the mainstream tech news sites, so we got in touch with mozilla.org to find out their real position. As a result, we're pleased to present an exclusive interview with Christopher Blizzard, the Red Hat employee and mozilla.org staff member who authored the Mozilla branding guidelines.

Update! LWN.net have a report on the interview. The first reader comment on their article is from Jonathan Walther. It makes it very clear where he stands on the issue.


#60 Re: What mailbombing?

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Thursday May 15th, 2003 6:35 PM

You are replying to this message

"My definition of mail bombing means intentionally sending large files (think core files) to someone or organization with the intent of clogging or bringing down their mail server."

The Jargon File 4.4.1 says a mailbomb is just any attempt to send, or urge other people to send, large quantities of email. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/…rgon/html/M/mailbomb.html>

"It isn't (IMO) what many of us do to government types, sending a large quantity of e-mails, each one from a separate address, trying to get someone to change their mind. That's a petition."

If you're a government type, it kind of goes with the territory. I don't really think that's the case with people from open source projects (some of which weren't even deeply involved in the name change).

"So, can someone clarify what exactly happened? Was it perpetrated by the official Firebird database developers or by a group of irate users?"

The initial campaign was started by IBPhoenix, which is affiliated to the Firebird database project: <http://www.ibphoenix.com/…nix&page=ibp_Mozilla0> (originally the page listed many more email addresses, around two dozen in all). Here's a contemporary MozillaZine article: <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=3082>

They've since apologised: <http://www.mozillazine.or…alkback.html?article=3115>

Alex