Full Article Attached Mitchell Baker on the Firebird Naming Dispute

Monday May 12th, 2003

Mitchell Baker,'s Chief Lizard Wrangler, has recently been in contact with Ann Harrison, an administrator of the Firebird database project, and Mark O'Donohue, President of the FirebirdSQL Foundation. Mitchell has posted a copy of a recent letter she sent to Harrison and O'Donohue to netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey. In the message, she describes how firmly believes that Mozilla Firebird is not infringing on the Firebird database trademark but that the name will eventually give way to 'Mozilla Browser' as the focus of development shifts towards standalone applications.

Some recent media articles have declared the Firebird database community as the victors in the naming dispute. Later this week, MozillaZine hopes to publish an exclusive interview with a senior staff member, which will shed some new light on the situation and clarify's current position.

#36 Re: or how about...

by sphealey

Wednesday May 14th, 2003 12:50 PM

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> firebird sql has no legal or moral ground to stand on. > they acted childishly and lost any upper hand they > might have had in the good will department. they in > fact are the only bullies in this situation.

First, I have no connection of any type with the Firebird SQL project. I don't use that software and I do not know or work with anyone who does.

Second, I understand and can respect your opinion, although I don't personally agree with it.

> its a done deal, its over, move along.

Here's where I disagree. does not have a magic button to unilaterally end this dispute. If it did, it should forget about browsers and sell that button instead. took an action. That action created a dispute. If Mozilla wants to end the dispute, it can (a) communicate and negotiate in good faith with the representative of the other party (b) file a lawsuit against the other party asking the court to declare the dispute a non-issue.

What they CAN'T do is make the dispute go away by acting in an arrogant and high-handed manner. Nor even by issuing "positioning documents" which seem to admit some fault in an arrogant and back-handed manner.

That's my opinion, anyway.