Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.

#85 Love your enemies (Matthew 5:43-48)

by JuanGonzalez

Tuesday May 6th, 2003 1:01 PM

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JStarkey wrote:

> "From the beginning, the Firebird people HAVE been trying to talk the Mozilla folks, but they don't return phone calls, they don't reply to mail, and they don't respond on forums like this. [...]"

In this case, things are really cold between the two open source projects now. Let's hope this will return to normality and serenity later, it would be good for everyone. If you wish normal communication between the two teams for a final and friendly agreement, please try again -in a courteous and reconciling way, naturally- through the usual Mozilla procedure for other projects described in a previous message <http://www.mozillazine.or…icle=3134&message=6#6> . If you are sincere about a reconciliation, but even so they are going to remember the mailbombing forever, this would be truly amazing, unless that your messages are still mentioning lawsuits, of course.

> "The Firebird folk don't understand why they refuse to talk. [...] And, correct me if I'm wrong, none of the people listed have actually complained about the mail they received."

Asa (at MozillaZine Forums): <http://www.mozillazine.or…ewtopic.php?p=69694#69694> , Brendan (at Firebird-general list = egroups.ibdi): <119/>" rel="nofollow"><news://<119/>> <news://> , etc...

> "On the other hand, Mozilla members have send death threats to Ann and any number of obscene mail messages. [...]"

I don't think those were Mozilla members, but surely we are without words after knowing this... :-(

Please, any Christians/Buddhists/Humans/Anything... out there?