Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.

#68 OK, Put it in Writing

by JStarkey <>

Sunday May 4th, 2003 12:42 PM

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"OK, but since end of May or perhaps since June, only the name "Mozilla Browser" will be used. Are the admins of the two open source projets going to fight about the small procedural details of this transition month? Let's hope both projects, Mozilla and Firebird database, will concede as much as possible to have, at last, a quick agreement about all these unimportant, trivial, insignificant things, instead of losing more and more valuable time. "

If were willing to put into a signed, binding agreement, we could put this all behind us. But if they're not even willing to discuss this, it does call into question their sincerity.

They know where to find Firebird. If they want to end it, have your guys contact our guys. Simple enough?