Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.

#59 Branding OK, Firebird DB will wait for Mozilla 1.4

by JuanGonzalez

Saturday May 3rd, 2003 3:03 PM

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In a new note at, the Firebird database admins say that, with "Mozilla Firebird" as a project name, there is already a major improvement over using "Firebird(TM)", and also:

"If they follow their branding document and switch to Mozilla Browser later this month, we can all put this behind us."

I would say, just have a bit of patience, releases have usually a small delay. Mozilla 1.4 needs to be a very stable version (the last suite version), possibly around end of May, or even in June perhaps.

Well, it seems that the new Mozilla Branding is -more or less- OK as a middle point or fair solution for the admins of both open source projects. :-)