Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.

#50 No lawsuits in sight

by JuanGonzalez

Friday May 2nd, 2003 3:37 PM

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Well, given that they read MozillaZine, I've just looked a little at a public mirror of the Firebird-General list (details at to see what's going on. Ahem... sorry for my curiosity. ;-)

They seem pretty satisfied with the new Mozilla Branding of April 25. So, I think that -since the Branding- there are no lawsuits in sight, on the contrary, they even say thanks and "good on yer" to the Mozilla people who removed the TMs, etc.

The atmosphere is very different from that of two weeks ago, when most people of the list weren't exactly kind to Brendan Eich (the technical director of Mozilla, and the creator of JavaScript), when he tried to talk to them and to make peace in the middle of the war. But these last days, the people of this Firebird list are much more relaxed and kind, and starting to talk more about other matters, like a new Firebird book, and so on.

Now, the only not positive point is that somebody has hacked (one of the main websites of the Firebird database OS community) on late Thursday evening. The hack was fairly major, with the website completely off-line, and they have needed a rebuild of the server, which is half-working again from today (Friday).

Let's hope this was just a coincidence, or at least the last friendly fire in the open source community starwars. :-/