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Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if mozilla.org and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to mozilla.org on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing mozilla.org. In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe mozilla.org's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.


#49 Bull crap

by jedbro

Friday May 2nd, 2003 11:05 AM

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That is the same bull-crap I have been hearing for weeks.

Mozilla didn't care? What? I can't believe you look at it that way. Mozilla didn't think it would be a issue, a problem. I for one knew of FireBird (the DB) before the name change. I also voted for Phoenix to become FireBird. It didn't even remotely pass through my mind that there would be a conflict between these products due to a Name. I think mozilla thought the same.

""Being part of a community -- as in the free software community -- means being considerate of your neighbors and *sensitive* to their welfare."""

You talk about Open Source friendship and helping each other out. The "What the F*ck is FireBird doing". If I were JED, and open source organization, and Another bigger org, calls their product Jed, I would be stoked. Being in the Open Source community, things like this should be sought out in friendly manners, not in the typical (FireBird DB response) MS hate banwagon of "here are there e-mails, let them know why you dissagree). Now who is not playing friendly in the OpenSource Community???

If I were firebird, I would be exited, and say hey, you should have asked, but we all want the same thing "Free quality opensource product", let's benifit ourselves mutually, and in each Project respective FireBird page, post links to eachothers FireBird product, therefore eliminating confusion, and bringing in more users."

Now that to me would be a "community". It's funny you don't see it that way.

Mozilla did make a mistake, true, but fireBird DB took it to another level, and made it into a commercial battle. Mozilla retracted, and yet they still are playing their childish "not so friendly OpenSource Community games".

You be the judge