Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.

#36 don't be childish yourself

by paxvel

Friday May 2nd, 2003 4:31 AM

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I would not like to be among your customers if you judge product quality by the attitude of project admins. Actively discouraging anything for any other reason than actual suitability for the customer is non-professional. If you are a consultant, you are paid to find the best solution possible. Customers pay you in good faith that they receive professional, unbiased solution - not your personal opinion about people behind products. Many people consider Theo de Raadt an unpleasant person, but it doesn't stop them from using OpenBSD. A lot of people dislike Microsoft and still develop and use Windows-based solutions.

I am a networker, not a DB consultant, so I don't give a damn about Firebird-the-DB myself. But if your customers trust you in the DB area, act professionally and be objective - the customers deserve it. Well, I am sure the choice will be still Oracle/DB2/MySQL/Postgress anyway, but who knows.

P.S. I believe "Firebird" is a lame name, for both databases and browsers.