Firebird Database Project Issues New Statement on Naming Debate

Thursday May 1st, 2003

On Tuesday, the Firebird database project's main front page was updated with another statement from the Firebird Admins about the naming controversy. The announcement suggests that the database project's leaders may be satisified if and related sites follow the policy of the Mozilla branding guidelines to the letter and only ever refer to the former Phoenix browser as 'Mozilla Firebird'. According to the update, the Firebird Admins, the FirebirdSQL Foundation committee and the IBPhoenix principals (the IBPhoenix site appears to be down right now) sent a formal letter to on Friday and are awaiting a response.

The statement also links to an assessment of the Firebird database community's legal position, published by the FirebirdSQL Foundation. We were not able to verify the accuracy of this legal advice, which was researched by Pavel Cisar, one of the database project's administrators, and two unnamed legal consultants. Interestingly, the document reveals for the first time that the FirebirdSQL Foundation is considering suing In the past, the group has claimed that they are not interested in taking legal action and could not afford to anyway. The Foundation has also published another summary of how they believe's use of the Firebird name harms the database project.

#33 Am I missing something...

by leafdigital

Friday May 2nd, 2003 3:16 AM

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Am I missing something or is this entire argument pointless in view of the branding guidelines, which clearly state that Firebird (or, if you prefer, 'Mozilla Firebird') is an internal name only, and when there is actually a release of the product it'll be called Mozilla Browser (or, for normal people, 'Mozilla') same as always?

Also, it seems to me that this relevant point from the branding guidelines was never posted very clearly on the front page, though the guidelines were linked a couple of times... I think 'Mozilla makes no claim to Firebird name, uses it only as internal codename for a limited period of time' was pretty important as a news story, and a lot of people don't seem to understand it...

(All this assuming I read the branding guidelines correctly.)

By the way I think (a) Firebird as a name sucks, should never have been chosen, and I'm glad it won't be used permanently/for a real release name, and (b) the Firebird SQL project's actions on this are utterly reprehensible. Scum. I hope their database continues on its journey to yawning mediocrity.