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Firebird Poll Ignites Flames of Passion

Wednesday April 23rd, 2003

The question posed by our last poll was intended to get feedback on 'Firebird', the new name for Phoenix. We got it in buckets. A massive 20,576 people voted — that's over ten times as many as for the new Roadmap poll. The Firebird name is a sensitive issue and we strongly believe that certain parties made concerted efforts to fix the contest. Bearing that in mind, the results of the poll apparently suggest that 30% of voters love the new name, 6% like it, 4% are neutral towards it, 4% don't like it and 12% hate it. 29% of the votes cast were by people who think that mozilla.org should not have picked the same name as the Firebird database and 12% believe that the Mozilla suite should be renamed to Winnebago.

Our next poll will hopefully be less controversial. Tuesday marked the tenth anniversary of NCSA Mosaic, the revolutionary browser that is frequently credited with turbo-charging the growth of the Web. We want to know when you think the best period of post-Mosaic browser innovation took place. Was it immediately after the release of Mosaic, during which a crop of new graphical browsers hit the streets? Was it during in the Browser Wars, when Netscape and Microsoft battled for dominance of the Web? Maybe you think that we're currently in a browser innovation renaissance, with established companies like Apple re-entering the browser market. Let us know what you think and check the up-to-the-second results to follow the poll's progress.


#69 Re: Re: Childishness

by the_Rebel

Friday April 25th, 2003 12:47 AM

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I agree with redvine. Ever since the Phoenix project appeared, it has been saturated with examples of arrogance and childishness. This Firebird naming thing is just the latest example. Previous examples appear throughout these forums and even in previous versions of the Phoenix FAQ. I used to spend a lot more time on Mozilla than I have for the past 6 months; the primary reason for the change was that I got sick of the immature attitude coming from the Phoenix crowd.

Regarding this latest issue, I just simply do not understand why anyone involved with Mozilla would be so determined to use the name Firebird. Can anyone provide a logical explanation for why it is important to use the name Firebird?

I am not looking for a legal justification for the use of the name; I am looking for a logical justification for why mozilla.org is determined to use the name despite all of the issues that it has caused and will continue to cause.

From what I can tell, Firebird was chosen because of it was the coolest sounding name that corresponded to the Phoenix name. There is a small bit of logic to that, but not enough to justify the stubborn insistance upon continued use of it.

The whole point of changing the name away from Phoenix was to avoid infringing on anyone else's use of the name; now with Firebird that does not seem to be a concern at all.