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Full Article Attached Firebird Database Project Admin Ann Harrison Interviewed

Monday April 21st, 2003

It's been a long and intense week since mozilla.org announced that the Phoenix browser has been renamed Firebird, to the dismay of much of the Firebird database community. In this interview with MozillaZine, Ann Harrison, an administrator of the Firebird database project and a partner in IBPhoenix, gives her thoughts on the dispute.


#52 About namezillas and namebirds.

by pcabellor

Tuesday April 22nd, 2003 7:10 AM

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I coincide in saying that a trademark must in someway promote some feature or the entire nature of a product. Mozilla? Thunderbird? Firebird? Phoenix?

Though I understand it is hard to get an available trademark that at the same time may have a meaning or mtransmit an idea of a browser. Mozilla has earned that value on its own. By now, Mozilla means browsing for majority (at least for anyone with a minimum connection with IT), so if a new name is required (which I also disagree) it should have confortably and happily used the Mozilla name in some combination.

As for my personal preferences, keep the Mozilla name alone for the browser and add suffixes for each component: Composer: something like Rule, Pen, Inspire or anything indicating design Mail: Bag, Box, Notes, Station, Deliver, Post, or whatever chatzilla/jabberzilla: IRC, Pals, InTouch, League, Room, Society, or whatever

and so on. And I would avoid suffixing everything with -zilla (Penzilla, Roomzilla, Notezilla, Boxzilla, etc.).

As for the Firebird DB conflict. Picture this: You're happily at the beach, enjoying sun and sea, and then a moron comes to sit just next to you, there is plenty of room but the stupid guy sits by your side.. yes, he has the legal right, but he is still a jerk. Even worse, the guy may have already be sitted somewhere else and just because being a stupid jerk, moves to sit just by your side. That's Mozilla. It was happily enjoying a goog name, but had to make a move and take some other's, legally but also jerkilly.

I love Mozilla just like everyone and for that, I don't want it to be subject of bad comments because of a bad attitude, because of a ridiculous nosense like a name and not even a good one.

Please admins, before this becomes personal, just give up the name. We have lots to do with new roadmap. I propose this:

- release the name Firebird and Thunderbird - assign a temporary name to phoenix to avoid more name issues, I suggest a develoment codename like Chaos (in honor to all this situation), with a final release name of just Mozilla. After all, a new roadmp is not reason for a new name, just like when dropping the netscape source code didn't require a new name. This new roadmap is not as different as that. - rename thunderbird back to Minotaur, also as a development codename - check if using Mozilla + whatever can be trademarked (I guess so, since Microsoft Windows exists) - if it is, start a survey through Mozillazine to chose the prefered name. - trademark the winners and kill whoever bothers again in he future about names.

And in the future for codenames use only names in the public domain like Everest, Mont Blanc, Osiris, Thor, and so on, you get it.

Peace and love.