IBPhoenix Calls For More Focussed and Courteous Protest Campaign

Thursday April 17th, 2003

IBPhoenix, the FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor who yesterday called for a mass forum posting and emailing campaign in opposition of Phoenix's renaming to Firebird, have reconsidered the scale of their protest. In an update posted on the IBPhoenix front page, the group says: "Yesterday, your voice was heard on their forums and in broadly targetted email. We've got their attention. Now, we should make our argument, simply, cogently, and with the respect owed by one open source group to another."

In a new article published today, Firebird Admin Ann Harrison asks fellow members of the Firebird database community to "stop broadcasting our dismay widely and focus instead on those people who can actually affect the decision." Adding that "the point is not to smother them in accuratory (sic) or derogatory messages", Harrison calls for future emails to be sent only to Mitchell Baker,'s Chief Lizard Wrangler, and Asa Dotzler, who announced Phoenix's new name on Monday.

The statement also includes a plea for civility: "When writing to the Mozilla forum or MozillaZine, use the same courtesy we use with each other in our discussions. Better yet, use the courtesy that we often use when we haven't forgotten ourselves and jumped on a soap-box." As one of the sites affected by this protest, we at MozillaZine welcome this move as a step in the right direction.

Update! Benman writes: "Slashdot has an article on the Mozilla Firebird name debate."

Another Update! The Firebird database project's front page article in protest of the renaming has been updated to remove the list of Mozilla developers' contact details. The announcement now requests that the Firebird database community only post to their own Firebird-general mailing list (which was known as IBDI until it was renamed on Wednesday). IBPhoenix have also modified their original statement to purge many Mozilla email addresses.

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by cgonyea

Friday April 18th, 2003 2:34 PM

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Your damage paragraph sounds a lot like confusion to me. You need to chill and think logically.

If a Firebird RDBMS user is stupid enough to post a bug on Mozilla's bugzilla, they shouldn't be a Firebird RDBMS user. 99.999% of those interested in databases that use Firebird RDBMS are very computer literate and probably just about all of those could be classified as a computer geek. I would hope for the sake of Firebird RDBMS' users everywhere that their users could tell where the hell to post a bug and the difference between a website for Mozilla and a website for Firebird RDBMS. If they can't, they need an IQ test and should stop using computers.

As for Mozilla users (current and protential), the media, download sites, etc. will all use the name "Mozilla Firebird." Google searches for "Firebird" will probably result in the Mozilla web site and Firebird RDBMS web site sharing the top 2. Clearly labeled (which would be good anyways even if their names were totally different to ensure that they appear in the releveant searches), both web sites could never be confused as supporting a different project then what they really support. If a user really knows what they are looking for, a proper search query will result in links that are almost 100% releveant.

There won't be any ports or any stuff like that. It is just a name, if that causes someone to run their own port of Mozilla Firebird, they are welcomed to do so but I count the number of users who will care in the single digits. They can cry in their own little corner of the world.