IBPhoenix Calls For More Focussed and Courteous Protest Campaign

Thursday April 17th, 2003

IBPhoenix, the FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor who yesterday called for a mass forum posting and emailing campaign in opposition of Phoenix's renaming to Firebird, have reconsidered the scale of their protest. In an update posted on the IBPhoenix front page, the group says: "Yesterday, your voice was heard on their forums and in broadly targetted email. We've got their attention. Now, we should make our argument, simply, cogently, and with the respect owed by one open source group to another."

In a new article published today, Firebird Admin Ann Harrison asks fellow members of the Firebird database community to "stop broadcasting our dismay widely and focus instead on those people who can actually affect the decision." Adding that "the point is not to smother them in accuratory (sic) or derogatory messages", Harrison calls for future emails to be sent only to Mitchell Baker,'s Chief Lizard Wrangler, and Asa Dotzler, who announced Phoenix's new name on Monday.

The statement also includes a plea for civility: "When writing to the Mozilla forum or MozillaZine, use the same courtesy we use with each other in our discussions. Better yet, use the courtesy that we often use when we haven't forgotten ourselves and jumped on a soap-box." As one of the sites affected by this protest, we at MozillaZine welcome this move as a step in the right direction.

Update! Benman writes: "Slashdot has an article on the Mozilla Firebird name debate."

Another Update! The Firebird database project's front page article in protest of the renaming has been updated to remove the list of Mozilla developers' contact details. The announcement now requests that the Firebird database community only post to their own Firebird-general mailing list (which was known as IBDI until it was renamed on Wednesday). IBPhoenix have also modified their original statement to purge many Mozilla email addresses.

#69 Re: Firebird is already taken.


Friday April 18th, 2003 5:06 AM

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> But in a hypothetical future world where "our" firebird has been packaged, anyone doing "apt-get install firebird" expecting a database will be terribly confused. The installation will succeed just fine, but there'll be no database anywhere to be found...

All I can say is that if Debian devs are so stupid that they decide to call Mozilla-firebird ONLY firebird, then I will be highly surpriced. You are trying to find a problem where non exsists.

> or we call the binary package mozilla-firebird, which only hurts potential users of *this* package

Are you so ignorant in these issues and of the future of Mozilla that you don't know even know that moz will be split up into standalone parts? Please read up on the basics stuff like the roadmap before suggesting what Mozilla should do... Right now you are just adding spam.