IBPhoenix Calls For More Focussed and Courteous Protest Campaign

Thursday April 17th, 2003

IBPhoenix, the FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor who yesterday called for a mass forum posting and emailing campaign in opposition of Phoenix's renaming to Firebird, have reconsidered the scale of their protest. In an update posted on the IBPhoenix front page, the group says: "Yesterday, your voice was heard on their forums and in broadly targetted email. We've got their attention. Now, we should make our argument, simply, cogently, and with the respect owed by one open source group to another."

In a new article published today, Firebird Admin Ann Harrison asks fellow members of the Firebird database community to "stop broadcasting our dismay widely and focus instead on those people who can actually affect the decision." Adding that "the point is not to smother them in accuratory (sic) or derogatory messages", Harrison calls for future emails to be sent only to Mitchell Baker,'s Chief Lizard Wrangler, and Asa Dotzler, who announced Phoenix's new name on Monday.

The statement also includes a plea for civility: "When writing to the Mozilla forum or MozillaZine, use the same courtesy we use with each other in our discussions. Better yet, use the courtesy that we often use when we haven't forgotten ourselves and jumped on a soap-box." As one of the sites affected by this protest, we at MozillaZine welcome this move as a step in the right direction.

Update! Benman writes: "Slashdot has an article on the Mozilla Firebird name debate."

Another Update! The Firebird database project's front page article in protest of the renaming has been updated to remove the list of Mozilla developers' contact details. The announcement now requests that the Firebird database community only post to their own Firebird-general mailing list (which was known as IBDI until it was renamed on Wednesday). IBPhoenix have also modified their original statement to purge many Mozilla email addresses.

#65 Why internal codename is so important?

by vnv

Friday April 18th, 2003 5:00 AM

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>Those are just names to give them for now while they are being developed...

I got the same impression from a number of Asa's postings. It seems that 'Firebird' to-be-brand does not play significant role in planned promotion strategy. But there's the point I'm not getting - if this is going to be just an internal codename, why not simply change it, putting an end to this regrettable conflict within the free software community? Probably, the issue could be resolved simply by communicating in clear and unambiguous way the idea of 'internal codename only' to the Firebird DB guys and to the rest of the world. But if it won't, setting personal and collective egos aside, I see no rational reasons for not changing the name. I personally would consider this as a sign of wisdom, not weakness.

I'm quite a pro-Mozilla guy. In my spare time I've translated 90% of Mozilla help to Russian and written a couple of articles about it. I don't have anything to do with Firebird DBMS. And it is my honest belief that it is - my favorite free software project - that would benefit from stopping this conflict ASAP.