IBPhoenix Calls For More Focussed and Courteous Protest Campaign

Thursday April 17th, 2003

IBPhoenix, the FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor who yesterday called for a mass forum posting and emailing campaign in opposition of Phoenix's renaming to Firebird, have reconsidered the scale of their protest. In an update posted on the IBPhoenix front page, the group says: "Yesterday, your voice was heard on their forums and in broadly targetted email. We've got their attention. Now, we should make our argument, simply, cogently, and with the respect owed by one open source group to another."

In a new article published today, Firebird Admin Ann Harrison asks fellow members of the Firebird database community to "stop broadcasting our dismay widely and focus instead on those people who can actually affect the decision." Adding that "the point is not to smother them in accuratory (sic) or derogatory messages", Harrison calls for future emails to be sent only to Mitchell Baker,'s Chief Lizard Wrangler, and Asa Dotzler, who announced Phoenix's new name on Monday.

The statement also includes a plea for civility: "When writing to the Mozilla forum or MozillaZine, use the same courtesy we use with each other in our discussions. Better yet, use the courtesy that we often use when we haven't forgotten ourselves and jumped on a soap-box." As one of the sites affected by this protest, we at MozillaZine welcome this move as a step in the right direction.

Update! Benman writes: "Slashdot has an article on the Mozilla Firebird name debate."

Another Update! The Firebird database project's front page article in protest of the renaming has been updated to remove the list of Mozilla developers' contact details. The announcement now requests that the Firebird database community only post to their own Firebird-general mailing list (which was known as IBDI until it was renamed on Wednesday). IBPhoenix have also modified their original statement to purge many Mozilla email addresses.

#54 Re: Re: Whatever

by lsces

Friday April 18th, 2003 12:49 AM

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Asa - since you will not answer my private email, I will try again here. I have a meeting with customers I have been trying to convert to Firebird from SQLServer - I've been at it for 6 months. OK the publicity is good, BUT if the conflict had not been reported, then I could have been in a position where the people I am talking to say "Firebird" isn't that the new Mozilla browser" YOU may not have a problem there but I do. DID you even bother to search for a conflict before using the name, or have all the other objections you now raise been found since this blew up? I am happy with Firebird and will continue to use it. I've 20 years of my live saved because it came into existance - because Borland were going to kill Interbase, and if I get any problems because of you using the name that I will deal with them at the time, but some common curtisy would not go a miss.