IBPhoenix Calls For More Focussed and Courteous Protest Campaign

Thursday April 17th, 2003

IBPhoenix, the FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor who yesterday called for a mass forum posting and emailing campaign in opposition of Phoenix's renaming to Firebird, have reconsidered the scale of their protest. In an update posted on the IBPhoenix front page, the group says: "Yesterday, your voice was heard on their forums and in broadly targetted email. We've got their attention. Now, we should make our argument, simply, cogently, and with the respect owed by one open source group to another."

In a new article published today, Firebird Admin Ann Harrison asks fellow members of the Firebird database community to "stop broadcasting our dismay widely and focus instead on those people who can actually affect the decision." Adding that "the point is not to smother them in accuratory (sic) or derogatory messages", Harrison calls for future emails to be sent only to Mitchell Baker,'s Chief Lizard Wrangler, and Asa Dotzler, who announced Phoenix's new name on Monday.

The statement also includes a plea for civility: "When writing to the Mozilla forum or MozillaZine, use the same courtesy we use with each other in our discussions. Better yet, use the courtesy that we often use when we haven't forgotten ourselves and jumped on a soap-box." As one of the sites affected by this protest, we at MozillaZine welcome this move as a step in the right direction.

Update! Benman writes: "Slashdot has an article on the Mozilla Firebird name debate."

Another Update! The Firebird database project's front page article in protest of the renaming has been updated to remove the list of Mozilla developers' contact details. The announcement now requests that the Firebird database community only post to their own Firebird-general mailing list (which was known as IBDI until it was renamed on Wednesday). IBPhoenix have also modified their original statement to purge many Mozilla email addresses.

#110 Re: Re: Re: Re: Screw this.

by gbukovics <>

Friday April 18th, 2003 9:05 PM

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Key word: "should". ;)

The announcements might be *meant* for Mozilla people, but Mozilla is one of the most important open source / free software projects. Consequentially, such news will inevitably end up on sites like Slashdot. Most Slashdot readers (and editors!) don't like to research subjects before forming an opinion.

As for the Firebird RDBMS project, these matters should have been discussed with them before announced the new name. And I disagree with Asa: although I've personally never heard of this project (I've certainly heard of Interbase), it appears to be the largest open source project named Firebird. As such, it is the one that is most affected by the sudden appearance of another, possibly even larger Firebird. Telling them beforehand that "Firebird" is only meant to be an internal codename would have prevented the e-mail campaign.

PS. It's 4:44am here, so this post might or might not have made any sense. In the latter case, please ignore.