Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#91 Re: Re: Yawn. Heard it.

by bandido

Thursday April 17th, 2003 3:05 AM

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Eloki, you are a bit confused here. The Phoenix browser is the one getting renamed as Firebird, NOT Mozilla. Don't forget that Phoenix is not Mozilla but an offshoot, a proof of concept if you will, for a stand alone simplified browser that uses a modified toolkit/XUL. What Mozilla guys announced the other day was that Mozilla, after Moz 1.4 final is released, will start using the Phoenix developed and modified code as the new Mozilla. In other words we will have Mozilla 1.5, 1.6, etc. and most probably when it reaches a level of maturity it might be called Mozilla 2.0. The original code where Mozilla operated like a swiss knife will stop being developed by the core Mozilla developers unless other developers or ISV grab the code (open sourced, guys?) and continue its development. Phoenix (Firebird) will continue as a side project for as long developers keep working on it.

Maybe the confusion comes from the fact that Asa is involved in both projects