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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#59 It's just a name, people

by fishbert

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 11:07 PM

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All this bickering and arguing isn't doing anything but annoying the Mozilla folks, and inflating the egos of the Firebird DB folks.

Why is a trademarked name so important in the business world? Because CompanyB could piggy-back on the success of CompanyA by using a similar name for their product and confuse the masses into thinking they were buying from the successful CompanyA instead of CompanyB. This is *not* what's going on here. If anything, the Firebird DB people are getting a great deal more publicity and name recognition out of this (I'd never heard of them until now, at least), and should probably thank the Mozilla folks for this opportunity to take the spotlight. The Mozilla Firebird browser project, is getting nothing but a black eye over this fuss (so yes, because of this it was a bad move); they are certainly not trying to cash in on the success and name recognition of the Firebird DB project. Note: I am not saying the Firebird DB project doesn't deserve recognition on its own merits (I wouldn't know -- never heard of it until a couple days ago); just making the observation that it apparently hasn't until now, at least not on this scale.

And lastly; if I were to walk into my local Home Depot and tell them I was looking to buy windows, they would not hand me something from Microsoft. Everything is known by its context. Mozilla Firebird belongs in the web browser store, the Firebird DB project belongs in the DB store. There's not going to be a whole lot of confusion -- these stores aren't even in the same strip mall.

Besides, this whole worthless attitude of hate directed from one project's followers to another (truly, the antithesis of a Care Bear Stare) is doing nothing constructive. Unless the intent was indeed to sound like a bunch of nit-picky children and give me a headache. If that is the case, then I say unto you all, "job well done!"