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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#53 Asa, you are tampering with the truth, aren't you?

by helebor

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 9:34 PM

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Asa stated: "The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages".

Here is what it really says: "You might also send mail to the following people and groups:

Asa Dotzler - he made the announcement and has been defending the Mozilla intellectual property lawyers by saying that no one could confuse a database with a browser.

<drivers@mozilla.org> - drivers are the project managers of Mozilla, they keep the project stable and moving forward. They should know what effect their new name has on another open source project.

These people are the technical project leaders of Mozilla. They too should be aware that the possibility for confusion exists."

Nowhere does it imply that these people should be "deluged". I guess you are extrapolating on the likelihood that quite a lot of people will want to express dismay at your incomprehensible behaviour and your (so-far-expressed) Mogul-like attitude to stamp on the legitimate dissenters by any means, fair or foul. If there's a deluge, then you can personally take the blame for it.

Helen Borrie Firebird Project Admin <http://sourceforge.net/projects/firebird>