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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#49 Mozilla Firebird!

by cgonyea

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 8:50 PM

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Get it right. It is Mozilla Firebird and it is a web browser. Wish everyone could get this right instead of thinking that the Mozilla name is being dropped.

The little pretty icons on your desktop will say Mozilla Firebird and probably will have a very distinctive icon as well. Mozilla Firebird is for every Internet user, it takes a open source zealot to figure out what Firebird database is and how to install/use it. Anyone who is a Firebird database user that can't figure out the difference between Mozilla Firebird and Firebird database shouldn't be using a computer.

A protential user of Mozilla Firebird will hear the browser from word-of-mouth, the media, and download sites like Download.com that use the proper full name (Mozilla Firebird) of the browser. A protential user of Firebird database will be most likely doing a search for open-source database software. Don't see how anyone can mix up the two, three, dozen, etc. software that may happen to have Firebird in the name if they know clearly that it is a web browser or a database that they are looking for. Anyone that is remotely intelligent can figure out when a web page comes up for some web browser named Mozilla Firebird and they were looking for a database that they selected the wrong site. Click the back button and try the next link shown in Google.

What next, some open source project screaming bloody hell because the word "Internet" is used in another product? Truly sad.