Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#3 Re: Market Confusion?

by user4321

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 12:00 PM

You are replying to this message

"Does anyone really think they're going to get confused between the Firebird database and the Firebird browser? If so, could you explain the scenario where this would occur?"

I don't think it would, although I don't necessarily agree with your reasoning. Most of your post appears to deal with confusion after someone has obtained both products; the relevant "confusion" wrt trademark deals with the attempt to obtain the product or information about it.

Look at it this way. If someone is Googling for the Firebird database, and end up at the Firebird browser web site, is there a reasonable chance they'd be confused enough to think they had found the database site? If yes, then there may be basis for a claim of infringement. However, I'd think the chances of that happening are pretty remote. Anybody who knows enough about database software to be looking for it isn't going to make that mistake.