Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.

#29 Re: Re: Bad behavior

by Sander

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 4:06 PM

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>> It is usually pretty common to let people with influence know that there are a large number of people that see a problem. Good grief, that concept is what Bugzilla is built around. <<

Uhm no, that idea is one of the main problems with bugzilla. Developers are actively giving up on Mozilla due to all the whining and useless comments _in_ bugzilla that they have to sift through to get any actual work done. The idea behind bugzilla is to let developers and knowledgeable testers quickly and easily share technical information to help fix bugs. Politics, bickering, whining, "me too" posts, and all that belongs in the newsgroups. (Well, actually a lot of that doesn't even belong in the newsgroups, but at least it definitely doesn't belong in bugzilla.)

Mozilla doesn't want disapproval ;) - mozilla doesn't care about people expressing their disapproval. We're not here for the end users. We're here for the product, and that is what matters.