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Reports on Phoenix/Minotaur Renaming Focus on Firebird Database Protest

Wednesday April 16th, 2003

InternetNews was one of the first sites to report on the renaming of Phoenix and Minotaur to Firebird and Thunderbird. Australian site LinuxWorld concentrated on the reaction from the Firebird database community, with claims that posts in "the Netscape-Mozilla newsgroup" (it's unclear exactly which newsgroup this refers to) are being censored. CNET News.com also focussed on the controversy, including a link to a page from FirebirdSQL Foundation sponsor IBPhoenix that encourages people to join the "fray" and add to the "heat in [the MozillaZine] forums". The call-to-arms also lists the email addresses of many of the more prominent Mozilla contributors and suggests deluging them with messages (even though many of the listed people had nothing to do with the name change).

Posts to the forums about the name change should be kept polite and constructive and added to the existing name change announcement topic.

Update! The Firebird Admins have posted a statement about Phoenix's renaming to Firebird on their front page. Stating that they "strongly oppose this change", the announcement follows the earlier IBPhoenix article in asking its readers to declare their objections by posting to Mozilla community forums and emailing various Mozilla developers.


#26 Re: Forget legal action

by Kircle

Wednesday April 16th, 2003 3:40 PM

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If Mozilla had renamed Phoenix to Postgres, then they would have a problem. But they didn't. They chose Firebird, which is a fairly common term used for a variety of products. Just as the team who created the Firebird database must have realized when choosing the name the risk of a future more widely known software product coming along bearing the same name in a different domain, the Mozilla team must also realize the risk of the same thing happening to them in the future.

Both Firebird database and Mozilla Firebird teams probably picked "Firebird" because they liked the name. If either one of them had wanted an original name, they should have choosen something more original such as "Postgres" or "Mozilla."